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Depression? Recession? No, It's the Great Restructuring
Seeking Alpha ^ | 03/09/09 | Jeff Jarvis

Posted on 03/09/2009 11:41:29 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Depression? Recession? No, It's the Great Restructuring

by: Jeff Jarvis March 09, 2009

It’s not a great depression, neither is it a great recession we’re going through now. At the Brite conference this week, Umair Haque called it a great “compression,” as an economy built on perceived value reconciles with actual value. This morning, The New York Times finally realized that what we’re experiencing is more than a financial crisis: “Job Losses Hint at Vast Remaking of Economy.” Well, yes, if hints were sledgehammers.

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Yes, entire swaths and even sectors of the economy will disappear or will change so much they might as well disappear:

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Financial services will have to be completely remade (by government). “Much the same can be said for financial services, which gave up 44,000 jobs in February,” the Times said. “During the housing boom, banks hired tens of thousands of well-compensated traders, analysts and marketers to sell mortgage-backed securities and other investments. That industry is unlikely to return to its former shape.” Who knew that the Times was such a master of understatement?

* Newspapers will vanish. Magazines are in worse shape than I would have guessed and many will go. Books‘ channels of manufacturing, distribution, and sales will go through upheaval.

* Broadcast media will become meaningless, replaced by digital delivery.

* Advertising will be next to feel the earthquake avalanche, after media.

* Large-scale retail will shrink and consolidate and then be transformed by a search-and-buy economy. The Times: “The economy lost 39,500 retail jobs in February, and has eliminated more than 500,000 in the last year.”

* The blockbuster economy in entertainment will become harder to support as more attention and money shifts to the tail.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: depression; recession; restructuring
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1 posted on 03/09/2009 11:41:29 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

* 500 times more people will be sucking at the tit of the gubermint.


2 posted on 03/09/2009 11:44:08 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 03/09/2009 11:45:35 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The only silver lining is that finance, stock market, and advertising are all centered in New York City.


4 posted on 03/09/2009 11:46:44 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman
Ergo, Detroit-East.
5 posted on 03/09/2009 11:49:42 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Advertising will be next to feel the earthquake avalanche, after media.

Anyone with a keyboard and internet connection knows where and how to find just about anything. Advertisers will just go where the people are. Quicker, less messy, and costs a lot less.

6 posted on 03/10/2009 12:01:38 AM PDT by budwiesest ("Mo police, mo money, we can get this right.",,,,,my totalitarian twin.)
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To: the_Watchman

That only means that New York liberals will be streaming out of their enclave into a neighborhood near you, now there’s a cheery thought!


7 posted on 03/10/2009 12:04:32 AM PDT by eclecticEel (I already have a Messiah, I don't need another one.)
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To: budwiesest

Commercial real-estate is the next to fall, before advertising. Office vacancy rates are at 14.4% and climbing.

Look at what has happened to home prices with 15% vacancy rates in homes. Commercial real estate is headed off that self-same cliff.

Too much office space...too many shopping malls.


8 posted on 03/10/2009 12:07:33 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: GOP Poet
"* 500 times more people will be sucking at the tit of the gubermint."

...except that the revenues for that won't exist without so many unnecessary services, foreign-made products and managers. ;-)


9 posted on 03/10/2009 12:21:18 AM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What good is all this restructuring if the first impulse of the inventor/business owner is to send the specs overseas to set up factories, share the tech info with H-1B workers, have universities train foreign students, and within five years the entire product is made in China, managed by Chinese and Indian IT workers, while a handful of Americans would reap the financial rewards?? If the new American economy is based on the ancient Chinese management of their own national treasure such as silk, then the US may enjoy centuries of prosperity and full employment for its population. Otherwise the new restructured economy is more of the same, except with new rich people who would hire lobbyists to influence Congress to look the other way and new companies whose stocks would be pumped and dumped to recreate the same crash 70 years later.


10 posted on 03/10/2009 12:25:41 AM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Fee

Global market...you sell your skill set to the highest bidder.


11 posted on 03/10/2009 12:28:23 AM PDT by durasell
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To: Fee

Foreign prices will continue to go up, and so will oil. It’s just a matter of time and international balancing. Since fall of 2007, there has been an effort to push foreign product prices and oil prices down—a foolhardy effort that is backfiring and will only have an effect for a short while.

Rejoice! The traitors are about to lose. They might even be exiled to their preferred countries before long. Just don’t buy anything that you don’t really need, and learn to make something truly useful. Grow a garden, and improve it each year.


12 posted on 03/10/2009 12:32:06 AM PDT by familyop (As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
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To: familyop

Darn good point :-).


13 posted on 03/10/2009 12:33:52 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Fee

I can sense that this guy wants to make his name as a business guru of ‘great restructuring era.’ As such, he won’t bash outsourcing to make his chief clientele upset.


14 posted on 03/10/2009 12:44:21 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I can sense that this guy wants to make his name as a business guru of ‘great restructuring era.’ As such, he won’t bash outsourcing to make his chief clientele upset.


Viewed another way — he knows on which side his bread is buttered.


15 posted on 03/10/2009 1:46:09 AM PDT by durasell
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To: TigerLikesRooster

When “sectors of the economy” disappear people can’t even afford to go to the Qwicki-Wash laundromat, not to mention buy a new washing machine.

We might save a few bucks if the “sector of the economy” that disappeared was this jokers job!


16 posted on 03/10/2009 3:04:41 AM PDT by djf (I saw a werewolf drinking a Pina Colada at Trader Vic's... and his hair was PERFECT!!)
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I donate one big FU to the outsourcing greedsters.

We’re American, we can make it here.

If we can’t make it here, we’ll find something else.

To hell with the global crap. I’m more worried about my neighbors and family than some character in Pakistan or wherever.


17 posted on 03/10/2009 3:09:49 AM PDT by djf (I saw a werewolf drinking a Pina Colada at Trader Vic's... and his hair was PERFECT!!)
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To: the_Watchman; TigerLikesRooster
The only silver lining is that finance, stock market, and advertising are all centered in New York City.

Al Qaeda won't even bother with NY again. Not a high value target anymore. In two years only Barney Rubbles will live there. Its growth industry will be pizza

18 posted on 03/10/2009 4:01:50 AM PDT by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum to place it, and I shall move the Earth)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

great restructuring era........

Yeah a “Great Restructuring” downward which we have been postponing for at least ten years by running colossal trade deficits, borrowing from abroad and engaging in bubble economics AKA tulip manias.


19 posted on 03/10/2009 4:07:53 AM PDT by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum to place it, and I shall move the Earth)
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To: durasell
Global market...you sell your skill set to the highest bidder.

Call me a liberal but globalism is unAmerican. My conservatism ends at the waters edge. Does yours?

20 posted on 03/10/2009 5:10:46 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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