Posted on 03/09/2009 10:16:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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As you all know, Skyewriter recently wrote about the dangerous incitement to violence and direct threats at Free Republic. I also posted and directed you to Skywriter’s blog. Skyewriter and I were deluged with gun bloggers and other right wingnuts (and just nuts) who denied that this was a direct threat.
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One week after Skywriter posted and I directed those on my blog to the post, the Daily Kos posted on the same topic. They detailed a thread in which the wingnuts were ranting, no doubt with white froth at the mouth, about our duly elected President who enjoys exceptionally high approval ratings in this country and who most of America thinks is doing a great job. You can see the post here.
Daily Kos Noted that while wingnut talk like this is nothing terribly new, it is more of the same started by Sarah Palin at her divisive qand hateful rallies and similar to Alan Keyes call for action to “stop” President Obama.
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But it is not just a question of a Republican leadership and moral vacuum. Where is the media? CNN is more interested in showing homes paid for by the USPS than exposing this clear and growing danger to a man who was elected by a clear majority of this country and who the majority approves of to this day. The rest of the media is equally irresponsible in failing to cover this story and Fox is the grandaddy of them all as they are constantly whipping up the angry white men out there with their no fact based news. The garbage that they spew is delusional. Talk about hijacking democracy!
Today the Daily KOS posted a follow up because like Skye and me, they reported that thread at the Free republic to the FBI. Contrary to all of the nastiness that Skye was subjected to that what she quoted on her blog was really nothing, the FBI and Secret service do think it is something indeed. You can see that post here. Here are some excerpts from the FBI about the wingnuts:
"The number of threats to Obama as an individual, not the office, since election day is unprecedented. The Secret Service typically handles this stuff exclusively, but has had to look elsewhere for help."
"The FBI monitors and investigates all the white supremacist groups and websites and the guy I know in NY told me that Obama’s election has turned into the best recruiting tool they have ever used. Membership is up for the first time in I don’t know how long, and new hate websites are emerging every week. Some of the websites actually call for Obama’s assassination in their title!"
"The only solace I can offer is that, typically, these assholes are usually just that: a bunch of bored blowhards, terrified by the pace of a world that is passing them by, who have nothing better to do than complain, blame others for their shitty lives and spew their hatred and pitifully ignorant views online."
"This is not to say that Obama isn’t in constant peril…"
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I’m preaching and this has all been said before. I guess I’m just venting because the level of ignorance in this country actually still astounds me. We act horrified and shocked at the uneducated peasant masses blindly following crazy Muslim clerics when we have essentially the same thing going on here.
I could not agree more. It doesn’t matter whether the wingnuts are right wingnuts or left wingnuts. This is not acceptable and puts the people making the threats against President Obama in the same position as Osama bin laden - flat out murderers.
According to the post, the FBI (and I know the secret service as well) has requested our help in exposing the militia groups and the wingnuts threatening our democracy.
He also invites us to help “expose these morons whenever we can”. Distasteful as it is to have to venture into the belly of the beast, let’s keep an eye on the wingnuts and report any and every instance of hate speech, particularly threats of violence, whether against our President or anyone at all. The Secret Service and the FBI actually do investigate these people, as The Red Pen’s rec’d diary from yesterday attests. Reporting them works. So let’s keep the heat turned up. While we’ll probably never change their minds, we can at least stigmatize the hell out of them, make it less attractive to fence-sitters to be associated with them, and make their lives a little more miserable than they already so clearly are.
Here is the contact page for the US Secret Service.
Here is the contact page for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
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These people are blind, ignorant racists for the most part who cannot stand the fact that an African American family is in the White House. As for the rest of them, from what I have read, they seem to be buying into the socialism/marxism/communism rants of people like Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter and all of the other “Republicans” who are spreading the same garbage in a desperate attempt to hang onto their dittohead base. As far as I am concerned, if they do not step up and denounce this behavior, should anything happen, they should be investigated and/or prosecuted for their part in whipping up a crown of wingnuts who don’t read and apparently can’t think too clearly either.
Is that the Daily KOS mascot?
Damn rightwingnuts! OFF with their heads!!
Well, just turn us in to the Gestapo.
That will teach us to "hijack democracy" with all of that free speech stuff.
Heh, heh. The only time I have even MENTIONED violence against the president was when I said that his incompetence could motivate his own handlers to “off” him as some suggest happened to JFK.
The OP is pretty funny though. It is the pot calling the refrigerator black.
Sounds to me like that ought to be reported to the Feds. Either someone is pretending to be a Federal officer, or there is a nut who shouldn’t be a Fed...
>>A word to the wise should be sufficient but I fear for this site.<<
This site is like the US. Good folk, bad folk, smart folk, goofy folk. And when a goofy one does something stupid, they don’t shut down the US, though that person may be plucked out, and rightly so.
Don’t you just love the first amendment!
http://catherinemacivor.com/2009/03/08/right-wingnut-incitements-to-violence-are-being-acted-upon/
You’re famous!
While I absolutely detest Obama and everything he stands for, I personally believe this was over the line on the part of the posters and the offending posts should be removed. It only allows the liberals to paint us with a broad brush. But then, it's not my "house".
Of course, that was just "free speech", right?
Apparently, all persons on the Right are forever enjoined from calling even the most obvious socialist a "socialist", much less questioning their motives.
In this context, you may recall Alinsky's Rule 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
Ping
I had a similar thought, but then realized the feds are likely already monitoring this site as well as the KOS...
Excuse me while I get a tissue to wipe the froth from my lips..
A guy could get rich selling brown shirts on libtard websites.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
It really is mental illness.
I witnessed the complete melt-down of the left during Bush’s term in office. They’re going to have a very hard time convincing me that there are more threats against this president than there were against Bush.
There was a movie that showed Bush being assassinated.
Nuff said...
While I agree that all serious threats to anybody should be investigated, every frivolous and unwarranted accusation should also be investigated.
"Crying wolf", like elections, have consequences....
Geeeeze! I wish he had mentipned me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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