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Star Children for Darwin
CEH ^ | February 28, 2009

Posted on 03/01/2009 10:55:11 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Star Children for Darwin

Feb 28, 2009 — Why should we be looking for alien intelligence around other stars when it is right behind your eyeballs?  You may not have known that you are a star child, but that’s what a leading astronomer called you.  As a good star child, you need to pay tribute to Charles Darwin.    

In New Scientist, Lawrence Krauss called on children of spaceship Earth to “Celebrate evolution as only star children can.”  In this, he tied together the International Year of Astronomy 2009, the 400th anniversary of Galileo’s first use of the telescope on the night sky, with Charles Darwin’s 200th birthday.  He recounted the epochal discoveries in astronomy and biology that he feels neatly combine in modern evolutionary theory, the theory of everything:

Darwin’s theory of evolution, and the science of genetics which followed, demonstrate that humans and the rest of life on Earth share not just a common heritage, but virtually everything else.  At a molecular level, the distinction between humans and bacteria seems almost superficial.  All forms of life on Earth share a common genetic method of replication and energy storage.  Yet it is truly remarkable that from so simple a set of molecular building blocks such diversity can arise.
Krauss did not seem to consider the theistic alternative at all that explains the same evidence: the same God who created stars also created mankind from the dust of the ground.  Both worldviews produce the same observations.  Stars and humans are made of atoms and molecules.  Actually, he did quote Darwin’s ending sentence in The Origin about “originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one,” but he had just described cosmic evolution leading seamlessly into biological and human evolution.  Somehow global politics emerged in his conclusion:
Accordingly, the two discoveries we herald this year carry an important message for our future: the intimate connections between humanity and the entire cosmos, as illustrated by both evolution and astronomy, suggest that the only sensible perspective of humanity is a global one.  The need for a global perspective is of vital importance now, as we are the first generation in history that must seriously confront global limits to our future on Earth, from energy to climate change.
Christians might call this a non-sequitur or a half-truth.  They do not deny our connectedness, but explain it in terms of all creation (stars and humans) being the handiwork of a single Creator.  And instead of seeing a global perspective as the only sensible option for humanity, they might take the very same observations and point out the duty of each individual to its Maker.

The same mythology gets repeated over and over in the media.  Carl Sagan was talking this starstuff lingo back in the 1980s.  It’s all glittering generalities and logical fallacies.

Darwinism and the U.N. are not the only perspectives that explain the observations.  Krauss begs the question.  What does the connectedness imply?  If there are at least two competing explanations for that connectedness (i.e., that stars and humans are both made of atoms), he cannot simply assume that his worldview is the only sensible perspective.  In what other contest does a contender declare himself the winner before competing in the race?    

Don’t follow his bluff like a lemming toward socialism and global politics.  Thinking is done by individuals.  If you follow the global crowd after the Darwin bandwagon, and it falls into a sinkhole, you will not be able to shift responsibility to them; you took the steps.  Think for yourself.    

You might even think a profound thought: that thought cannot emerge from stars, or else it wouldn’t be thought at all.  It would be a hodgepodge of contingency and determinism.  The essence of thought is to purposely order one’s conceptual resources, independently of the material substrate that conveys them, toward principles that obey the laws of logic.  Our theories and explanations of stars employ logic, but stars don’t.  Do stars take philosophy and hold debates?  Of course not.  Then what kind of twisted logic can believe that logic is an emergent phenomenon of matter in motion?  If that were so, how could any human brain have any confidence that its reasonings were true?  It leads to that “horrid thought” that plagued Darwin: “whether the convictions of man’s mind, which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy.  Would any one trust in the convictions of a monkey’s mind, if there are any convictions in such a mind?” he said.  If a monkey doesn’t have a mind or convictions, you can be sure that stars don’t.  Stop thinking horrid thoughts.  Think wise thoughts.  Daniel the statesman wrote, “Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever” Daniel 12:3).

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1 posted on 03/01/2009 10:55:12 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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2 posted on 03/01/2009 10:56:08 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Why do you keep spamming me to every post you make?


3 posted on 03/01/2009 10:56:41 AM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet
Just thought you might be interested. But I can see how Creationists exposing the howl-at-the-moon craziness that passes for science coming out of the Temple of Darwin might upset you. As such, I will respect your wishes and stop pinging you to articles exposing the silliness that is Darwinism.

All the best—GGG

4 posted on 03/01/2009 11:07:38 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

For my part, ping away!

(I enjoy a good laugh.)


5 posted on 03/01/2009 11:11:36 AM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: GodGunsGuts

My cousin, the rock.


6 posted on 03/01/2009 11:17:16 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: shibumi
I enjoy a good laugh.

Yeah. Like the irony in some of his posts, ie "Thinking is done by individuals. If you follow the global crowd after the Darwin bandwagon, and it falls into a sinkhole, you will not be able to shift responsibility to them; you took the steps. Think for yourself."

Followed by a bible verse.
7 posted on 03/01/2009 11:21:35 AM PST by whattajoke (.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
So now the Evolution Doctrine is followed by the Star Children precept.

the leftarded Humanist Religion is basically the same as scientology, but just with a better-researched plotline.

It's a religion, and it must not be tax funded.


8 posted on 03/01/2009 11:21:46 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: YHAOS

Why not...you don’t have to feed rocks, and they don’t get upset and tear your face of either :o)


9 posted on 03/01/2009 11:22:07 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: whattajoke

“Followed by a bible verse”

Totally. A Bible verse should give you a lot to think about. It’s sad to see it the way you seem to.


10 posted on 03/01/2009 11:23:19 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

That is precisely what I am trying to wake Christians and Conservatives up to. You hit the nail right on the head.


11 posted on 03/01/2009 11:23:27 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: YHAOS
"My cousin, the rock."

LoL! Oprahs new religion. "Be one with the rock". If you stare at the rock in your hand long enough, it comes to life, and a wave of "awakening" comes over you.

They must be smoking some new kind of pot on that show.

12 posted on 03/01/2009 11:23:38 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: GodGunsGuts

No - I don’t visit this site each and every day. Your posts make it more difficult for me to review actual responses to my comments.

I mean it would not have killed you to be polite and ask first.


13 posted on 03/01/2009 11:27:39 AM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Actually most of the “Star Children” philosophy that I have encounted is backed by intelligent design theory, not Darwinism. New Agers don’t believe in random genetic mutation, they just don’t go with Yahweh (or Elohim) as the designer.


14 posted on 03/01/2009 11:29:37 AM PST by JmyBryan
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To: GodGunsGuts

I fail to see the link between globalism and a predatorial based universe under Darwin.

How about adding to Darwin? How about truth?

No, Darwinism seem to arrogantly supplant it all, it’s your one stop science shop.


15 posted on 03/01/2009 11:34:03 AM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Oh I think the chosen Daniel verse is excellent. But then Daniel gets all crazy with the end-times stuff and loses me.

Like verses 11 & 12: “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.

What if I give up at 1,313 days?

Daniel is probably the most interesting book of the OT, if not the bible. The Jewish version of the Apocalypse, it was written before Christ and purports to be prophetic, but forgot the part about Christ’s birth and the subsequent (much later) expansion of Christianity.

Of course, perhaps this was a different end time and it DID happen in a relative sense, which is fine. Just tell Jack Van Impe.


16 posted on 03/01/2009 11:35:52 AM PST by whattajoke (.)
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To: whattajoke
"Like verses 11 & 12: “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days." That's from the time the (Christs) church falls, and the false Christs rule over earth is about 4 years. Those that live during that time are completely cut off from God, the gateway to heaven is shut. No souls can transfere into their spiritual bodies. etc etc. If you die before those days pass, then you will be risen up on the last day, the day of the lord, it tells you in revelation.
17 posted on 03/01/2009 11:43:01 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: whattajoke; chuck_the_tv_out; GodGunsGuts

Your post exemplifies the type in inferred reasoning (meaning your assumptions about what I find laughable) that makes Darwinists so amusing.

Please, keep it up. We all need some levity to block out the national tragedy occurring as we speak.

(Obligatory Bible verse pertinent to the aforementioned tragedy: “My name is Legion, for we are many.” Mark 5:9)


18 posted on 03/01/2009 11:43:28 AM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Nathan Zachary; GodGunsGuts
My cousin, the rock.

Been using that expression for sixty years. Can’t lay claim to any special cleverness. It’s just another way of saying “ashes to ashes, dust to dust.” From clay we came and to clay we return. And, what is a rock if it isn’t some clay under pressure? One could just as easily say “stardust.” That’s true too.

19 posted on 03/01/2009 11:43:39 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: shibumi

“We are star dust; we are golden and we’ve got to get ourselves back to The Garden” hippy ping.
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Inna Gadda Da Vida ‘Mander


20 posted on 03/01/2009 11:47:19 AM PST by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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