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Liquid Battery: ...a novel battery that could allow cities to run on solar power at night.
MIT Technology Review ^ | March/April 2009 | Kevin Bullis

Posted on 03/01/2009 10:23:02 AM PST by Reaganesque

Without a good way to store electricity on a large scale, solar power is useless at night. One promising storage option is a new kind of battery made with all-liquid active materials. Prototypes suggest that these liquid batteries will cost less than a third as much as today's best batteries and could last significantly longer.

The battery is unlike any other. The electrodes are molten metals, and the electrolyte that conducts current between them is a molten salt. This results in an unusually resilient device that can quickly absorb large amounts of electricity. The electrodes can operate at electrical currents "tens of times higher than any [battery] that's ever been measured," says Donald Sadow­ay, a materials chemistry professor at MIT and one of the battery's inventors. What's more, the materials are cheap, and the design allows for simple manufacturing.

The first prototype consists of a container surrounded by insulating material. The researchers add molten raw materials: antimony on the bottom, an electrolyte such as sodium sulfide in the middle, and magnesium at the top. Since each material has a different density, they naturally remain in distinct layers, which simplifies manufacturing. The container doubles as a current collector, delivering electrons from a power supply, such as solar panels, or carrying them away to the electrical grid to supply electricity to homes and businesses.

As power flows into the battery, magnesium and antimony metal are generated from magnesium antimonide dissolved in the electrolyte. When the cell discharges, the metals of the two electrodes dissolve to again form magnesium antimonide, which dissolves in the electrolyte, causing the electrolyte to grow larger and the electrodes to shrink (see above).

Sadoway envisions wiring together large cells to form enormous battery packs. One big enough to meet the peak electricity demand in New York City--about 13,000 megawatts--would fill nearly 60,000 square meters. Charging it would require solar farms of unprecedented size, generating not only enough electricity to meet daytime power needs but enough excess power to charge the batteries for nighttime demand. The first systems will probably store energy produced during periods of low electricity demand for use during peak demand, thus reducing the need for new power plants and transmission lines.

Many other ways of storing energy from intermittent power sources have been proposed, and some have been put to limited use. These range from stacks of lead-acid batteries to systems that pump water uphill during the day and let it flow back to spin generators at night. The liquid battery has the advantage of being cheap, long-lasting, and (unlike options such as pumping water) useful in a wide range of places. "No one had been able to get their arms around the problem of energy storage on a massive scale for the power grid," says Sadoway. "We're literally looking at a battery capable of storing the grid."

Since creating the initial prototypes, the researchers have switched the metals and salts used; it wasn't possible to dissolve magnesium antimonide in the electrolyte at high concentrations, so the first prototypes were too big to be practical. (Sadowa­y won't identify the new materials but says they work along the same principles.) The team hopes that a commercial version of the battery will be available in five years.


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KEYWORDS: battery; liquid; power; solar
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Discharged, charging, charged: The molten active components (colored bands: blue, magnesium; green, electrolyte; yellow, antimony) of a new grid-scale storage battery are held in a container that delivers and collects electrical current (left). Here, the battery is ready to be charged, with positive magnesium and negative antimony ions dissolved in the electrolyte. As electric current flows into the cell (center), the magnesium ions in the electrolyte gain electrons and form magnesium metal, which joins the molten magnesium electrode. At the same time, the antimony ions give up electrons to form metal atoms at the opposite electrode. As metal forms, the electrolyte shrinks and the electrodes grow (right), an unusual property for batteries. During discharge, the process is reversed, and the metal atoms become ions again.
Credit: Arthur Mount


1 posted on 03/01/2009 10:23:03 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque

You mean like a lead-acid battery? What is new about ‘liquid’?


2 posted on 03/01/2009 10:24:38 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

These liquids are simply molten metal- a nice safe battery running at the melting point of magnesium.

I think a thermionic nuclear reactor may be safer.


3 posted on 03/01/2009 10:26:09 AM PST by DBrow
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To: neverdem; SunkenCiv; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Wonder Warthog; Myrddin; The_Reader_David; ...
Like, *PING*, dudes.

Cheers!

4 posted on 03/01/2009 10:26:32 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Gaffer

In this case, the electrodes themselves are conductive liquids, such as metals or metalloids. The reactions at the electrodes are very fast.


5 posted on 03/01/2009 10:26:36 AM PST by jabchae
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To: Reaganesque
The electrodes are molten metals, and the electrolyte that conducts current between them is a molten salt.

YIKES!

6 posted on 03/01/2009 10:27:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: DBrow
Yeah! I'm sure that I want one or more of these sitting downstairs next to my gas water heater and gas furnace.
7 posted on 03/01/2009 10:28:08 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Reaganesque
Wow.

Plug it in.

8 posted on 03/01/2009 10:28:23 AM PST by IbJensen (In 2008, Americans foolishly used their freedom to vote for “chains” not “change.”)
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To: Gaffer

Don’t knock this new stuff — it has run the batmobile for years.


9 posted on 03/01/2009 10:28:49 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: Reaganesque

Most hot materials are lousy conductors. Seems like you’d lose a lot of energy due to internal resistance.


10 posted on 03/01/2009 10:29:25 AM PST by Nateman (Liberals are so lazy they need someone else to steal for them.FUBO.)
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To: Gaffer
Molten magnesium?

A container failure will be spectacular!

11 posted on 03/01/2009 10:29:28 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: jabchae

Doesn’t matter. The environuts will stop this, though they may wait until this stops what we have now. It’s the electricity and progress that they hate because it enables men to become independent from gov’t.


12 posted on 03/01/2009 10:30:16 AM PST by Phillipian
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To: Reaganesque

The Luddites will find a way to terrorize the public and demonize this technology.

I’m looking out my window at the distant towers of former nuclear power plant on the horizon that was closed in its first year of operation through a political campaign of fear and hysteria. $2 billion down the drain.


13 posted on 03/01/2009 10:30:39 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: George from New England
No thank you. I'll stick with my litium ion exploding iPhone battery. I prefer the smaller inflammatory outbreaks that give me time to run and grab the pictures of stuff I used to have (for the insurance claim) in the house....
14 posted on 03/01/2009 10:31:19 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Reaganesque
Charging it would require solar farms of unprecedented size, ... The first systems will probably store energy produced during periods of low electricity demand for use during peak demand,

Solar panels work real good at night.

15 posted on 03/01/2009 10:31:51 AM PST by SouthTexas (Can I have my house back that I lost in the 80s????)
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To: Reaganesque

It looks as though it would only work for fixed applications. There might be some fancy ways of allowing for turbulence, but it would make everything much more expensive.


16 posted on 03/01/2009 10:31:57 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Gaffer

An acid battery has some solid parts. This has none. At least, that’s what I understood from the article.


17 posted on 03/01/2009 10:32:15 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque

And these solar farms will be located where?

And the battery farms will be located where?

The batteries will be disposed of how? Where?

Quit screwing around and go NUCLEAR!!!


18 posted on 03/01/2009 10:33:10 AM PST by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: ElkGroveDan

Hey, I resemble that remark...I just used the term ‘Luddites’ in another thread....did you thread-jack me? Regardless, some technologies don’t go well with the general human condition. I think gas stoves, furnaces, etc. are enough of a gamble for the public homes at large. I don’t think they need to be overly complicated with obviously problemmatic devices like this.


19 posted on 03/01/2009 10:33:22 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Reaganesque
The researchers add molten raw materials: antimony on the bottom, an electrolyte such as sodium sulfide in the middle, and magnesium at the top.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And where will the disppose of the used materials , Yucca Flats?

Buahahahahhahahahahha!

20 posted on 03/01/2009 10:33:59 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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