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Evidence for Inflation, or Inflating the Evidence? (cosmological craziness gets even crazier)
CEH ^ | February 25, 2009

Posted on 02/25/2009 8:38:18 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Evidence for Inflation, or Inflating the Evidence?

Feb 24, 2009 — Cosmic inflation has become an accepted truth in cosmology, but its appeal is primarily philosophical and theoretical. Something as weird as a universe jumping 26 orders of magnitude in size in one trillion trillion trillionth of a second (see 02/21/2005) should raise eyebrows in any scientific circle. Is there any evidence for it?...

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1 posted on 02/25/2009 8:38:19 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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2 posted on 02/25/2009 8:40:19 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Is there any evidence for it?”

it relies on the redshift, and the faulty assumption that this is due to a “doppler effect”, like when a cop car goes past & the pitch changes.

But redshift can be created other ways, one major way is gravitational. If it turns out the universe is permeated with dark matter (eg a dense virtually undetectable neutrino field), that could easily cause the redshift we see, and would increase with distance.

For example there are quasars in nearby galaxies with redshifts that “put them at the edge of the universe”! So clearly they don’t really know what’s going on.


3 posted on 02/25/2009 8:44:15 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: GodGunsGuts

LOL... now physics is a communist plot to corrupt your vital essence. I take it you avoid fluoride as well?


4 posted on 02/25/2009 8:44:43 AM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: ketsu

He does not avoid women, but he does deny them his essence. ;)


5 posted on 02/25/2009 8:49:51 AM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: GodGunsGuts

The evidence for cosmic inflation is sound, but still in it’s infancy, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s overturned in the future with more observations. That’s how science works.


6 posted on 02/25/2009 8:55:51 AM PST by PC99
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evidence for cosmic inflation is sound

No it isn't, it assumes that the entire universe began as a point and then proceeded to travel faster than the speed of light.  

Another better approach might be that the universe began not as a point but rather as an expanse about a meter across, but that too has problems because it assumes measurements made some place that wasn't a place.

The bottom line here is that what's missing with these models is a consistent set of definitions. Serious ommission. 

7 posted on 02/25/2009 9:16:06 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: GodGunsGuts
NASA: What is the Inflation Theory?

NASA: NASA Satellite Glimpses Universe's First Trillionth of a Second

First link provides background. The second link is a press release, which begins, "Scientists peering back to the oldest light in the universe have new evidence to support the concept of inflation." The article linked to by GGG's source is published by Live Science, link provided by yours truly so you don't have to give "Creation Safaris" a clickthrough. It's about a new telescope at the South Pole looking for polarization in the CMB that would indicate gravity waves during the inflationary period. In the article, Lawrence Krauss (Arizona State) is excited about the potential discovery of gravity waves, but says inflation does not depend on them. Good quotes from the article:

Inflation theory predicts that quantum fluctuations in the universe have been stretched out to cosmic sizes and became the seeds for the large-scale structure of the universe. One class of these fluctuations has already been observed — fluctuations in the density of subatomic particles throughout the universe, [Chicago astrophysicist John] Carlstrom said.
"The amazing thing about inflation is that it is completely consistent with what we see," [Krauss] told reporters.
Still it's hard to see how inflation theory could be wrong, said Scott Dodelson, a University of Chicago physicist who also spoke with reporters at AAAS, because it explains so many observations. "Inflation allows an explanation of many of those features which for right now, there is no other explanation," he said.

It's a pretty neat article, and I look forward to seeing the results in 2019.

8 posted on 02/25/2009 9:53:27 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: Caesar Soze

>>>>>>>>>”Inflation allows an explanation of many of those features which for right now, there is no other explanation,” he said. <<<<<<<<<<<

We are waiting for our Galileo to explain this and blow this stupid theory away...


9 posted on 02/25/2009 10:19:22 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Caesar Soze

It has been said that the Universe is not only stranger than we think but stranger than we can possibly think. This is a paraphrase


10 posted on 02/25/2009 11:37:30 AM PST by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


11 posted on 02/25/2009 12:03:17 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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