Posted on 02/19/2009 4:06:47 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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4. Would you strongly agree, somewhat agree, somewhat disagree, or strongly disagree that teachers and students should have the academic freedom to discuss both the strengths and weaknesses of evolution as a scientific theory?
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5. Charles Darwin wrote that when considering the evidence for his theory of evolution, “…a fair result can be obtained only by fully stating and balancing the facts and arguments on both sides of each question.” Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, somewhat disagree, or strongly disagree with Darwin’s statement?
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6. I am going to read you two statements about Biology teachers teaching Darwin’s theory of evolution. Please tell me which statement comes closest to your own point of view—Statement A or Statement B?
Statement A: Biology teachers should teach only Darwin’s theory of evolution and the scientific evidence that supports it.
Statement B: Biology teachers should teach Darwin’s theory of evolution, but also the scientific evidence against it.
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Do you think you can prove ID?
Looking at all these threads I see repeated the fake science of the creationists' web sites over and over again. It is not interesting. It is pathetic to see how so many are fooled by these guys and actually send in money to them.
We’re waiting.
Then you are admitting it is a matter of religion, not science.
But you do know that ID proposes that life originated from simple elements in pond scum and that man evolved from animals that evolved from this original life over billions of years?
Give us 150 years, a strangle hold on academia and untold grant dollars and we'll get back to you.
I admit the Bible is not a science textbook.
I deny that its account of the creation of this world is in error.
I admit that true science supports and does not contradict the Bible.
I admit that God knows infinitely more than we do about everything.
This is all anyone interested in science needs to know about Creationists and their view of the Bible and science. They know it is a trap, so they are not actually interested in scientific evidence to support their position, just interested in making everyone and everything “bow its knee” to their inane Biblical interpretation.
Using this criteria how would one ever disabuse themselves of the notion that the Earth doesn't move? Obviously one who knows that the Earth does move can read Psalm 104:5 with a clearer eye to its true meaning than a literalist.
Psalm 104:5 He laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be moved forever
No, Einstein.
Read much?
NO WHERE in your link did it propose teaching 'another side of the Evolution debate'.
Talk about an entitlement mentality.
Do you know the literal, Hebrew translation of that verse?
Did the people taking this survey know that this is what they meant by "teaching both sides of the issue"?
I’m of the opinion that kids would get a lot more out of science classes if they didn’t waste any time on origins. The subject of origins isn’t required for teaching applicable facts of science, including biology. The most brilliant cell biologist on earth could be completely void of opinions on origins, and it wouldn’t make a diddly-squat bit of difference. The same goes for any of the various fields of botany or zoology. I’m not trying to get anyone riled up here, just stating my opinion. Parents can teach their kids creationism or evolution, whichever one represents their faith.
“Psalm 104:5 He laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be moved forever”
That is obviously a metaphor or something or other. You have to relate that to other relevant passages to understand the true meaning. You are not an expert in the Bible so you are not qualified to interpret the Bible. Oops. I didn’t mean ‘interpret’. Obviously the Bible is the literal word of God and does not need interpreting. The problem is that you are quoting a passage in English. In order to get the right meaning, you have to go back to the original Hebrew text. It takes a learned scholar to do that. So please, do not try to understand the Bible. Just go on what my Sunday School teacher tells us is fact. In case you missed sunday school, I have a few creationist websites I can link you to. BTW, they sell all kind of neat merchandise. Lots of tapes and DVD’s also!
Yup, that's the evo bullies, too lazy to get off their fat, grant sucking asses and try to dig up (pun) the evidence they promised over 150 years ago.
Young’s Literal Translation
Psalm 104:5 He hath founded earth on its bases, It is not moved to the age and for ever.
You can leave the "I know you are, but what am I?" arguement on the playground. This is class time.
Didn't the headline distort the results of the survey? I didn't see anything about teaching 'both sides'. I only saw that the surveyed wanted to teach the scientific evidence for and against evolution. That doesn't mean teach another side.
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