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Posted on 02/19/2009 7:35:38 AM PST by NYer
SAN FRANCISCO, February 18, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In the wake of House Speaker Pelosi's closed-door meeting with Pope Benedict XVI last weekend, news has erupted that earlier this month Pelosi secretly met with her own bishop, Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco, to discuss her stance on abortion. Pelosi had publicly accepted an invitation to meet with Niederauer after the Speaker attempted to justify abortion in light of Catholic teaching last year during an interview on NBC's Meet the Press.
Michael Voris of Real Catholic TV broke the news today that the promised meeting took place Sunday, February 8 in a third-party home in San Francisco. Voris reports that Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said that the Speaker described the meeting as "cordial and pleasant ... a fair exchange and good."
When asked whether Pelosi had changed her position on abortion to agree with Catholic teaching, Daly stated, "You won't see that happening. She is not changing her position on abortion."
Attempts by LifeSiteNews.com to reach the Archbishop's office were unanswered by press time.
Pelosi got in hot water with Catholic Church officials and laity after she told Tom Brokaw of Meet the Press last August that "the doctors of the Church haven't been able to make that definition" on whether life begins at conception.
"The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose," she said. "This isn't about abortion on demand, it's about a careful, careful consideration of all factors and - to - that a woman has to make with her doctor and her god."
Archbishop Niederauer joined a chorus of bishops condemning the comments, issuing a lengthy statement to correct Pelosi's error and invite her to "a conversation with me about these matters." Pelosi immediately responded, saying she would "welcome the opportunity ... to go beyond our earlier most cordial exchange about immigration and needs of the poor to Church teaching on other significant matters."
Niederauer had met the Speaker in 2007 but did not touch upon the abortion issue because, Niederauer said, the issue of immigration was "very much the hot-button topic of the time."
See related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
"Catholic" Speaker Pelosi Denies that Catholicism Condemns Abortion
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/aug/08082502.html
26 US Bishops Have Rebuked Pelosi…So Far
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/sep/08091004.html
San Francisco Archbishop Niederauer Says He Doesn't Know Nancy Pelosi Stand on Abortion
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/feb/07020802.html
Nancy Pelosi truly deserves to be officially excommuicated by the Catholic Church. Serve her the Bull.
The voters need to perform an exorcism.
I am not Catholic, and don’t know squat about their rules. However it seems to me that Obama has more control over Catholic voters than the Pope does. Obama is for abortion anytime, anywhere, on demand. The Pope of course is against this. Yet Catholics by majority voted Obama. What am I not getting here?
Especially when it’s a small “g”.
Though I’m not Catholic, I was thinking the exactly the same thing.
>>Michael Voris of Real Catholic TV<<
This guy is from MI. He was on 1400 for a while and films in Ferndale, MI
http://www.catholictelevision.org/
Is there a place for the fatwa in Catholicism, do you think? The Muslims might be on to something........ :-)
As I said on another thread, Speaker Polosi has just received her 2nd (and last) call to repentance and reconciliation. The next move is up to Speaker Polosi. She has exhausted her appeals....”
I’m not Catholic, but this is sorta what I was thinking when the visit with the Pope was announced. It’s a chain of command issue. She just met the last link in the chain.
The Pope, and your church, would be crucified by the leftist press, but I figure the Pope could care less.
A priest being interviewed by O’Reilly last night made an interesting observation. He said that in these types of pope-celebrity meetings, typically there are tons of photos taken, but he could find none of this meeting. He thinks Pope nixed photos because he didn’t want to play in to Pelosi’s obvious photo-op reason for being there.
Also, Dennis Miller said that maybe the Pope didn’t know it was Pelosi, but thought he was seeing the Shroud of Turin instead. :)
Then she HAS to be excommunicated. Now.
I'm not Catholic either - but there's one link left in the chain. There's no coming back from that meeting.
Dennis Miller may have a point!
Actually, photos were specifically prohibited by the Vatican, precisely for the reasons that you stated. Bet Nancy was furious over that one!
>>Yet Catholics by majority voted Obama. What am I not getting here?
That there are a lot of CINOs in this country? (Catholic in Name Only).
I also said on the other thread that I was very sad to realize there was a question as to which way Speaker Polosi would choose.
From the text of this article, it appears that her choice has been made. As I said, you aren’t excommunicated by anyone in the Church — you excommunicate yourself.
As in the old tradition, when you affirm something three times — it is bound — unless you repent and make reconciliation. Excommunication isn’t forever.
But the voters who elected her are all San Francisco lefties... Her status as a politician is in the hands of the voters and, more seriously, her status as a Catholic is in the hands of the Catholic Church. She should recant her flagrantly public position on abortion or be willing to receive excommunication. She shouldn’t be able to have it both ways and the Catholic Church must make the proper decision.
Good for the Vatican on this one. If Pelosi had known there was zero chance for a photo-op, she’d have cancelled.
Isn’t that what Hussein did when he went to see the troops during the campaign? When he learned there’d be no photos of him glad-handing the soldiers, he cancelled going to the base and went to the gym to work out instead.
These Dems are such phonies.
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