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Greenspan backs bank nationalisation [joins Graham, McCain, Obama, and others] [Socialist agenda]
Financial Times ^ | 2009-02-18

Posted on 02/17/2009 5:48:34 PM PST by rabscuttle385

BY KRISHNA GUHA & EDWARD LUCE

Washington. The US government may have to nationalise some banks on a temporary basis to fix the financial system and restore the flow of credit, Alan Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve chairman has told the Financial Times.

In an interview with the FT Mr Greenspan, who for decades was regarded as the high priest of laisser-faire capitalism, said nationalisation could be the least bad option left for policymakers.

”It may be necessary to temporarily nationalise some banks in order to facilitate a swift and orderly restructuring,” he said. “I understand that once in a hundred years this is what you do.”

Mr Greenspan’s comments capped a frenetic day in which policymakers across the political spectrum appeared to be moving towards accepting some form of bank nationalisation.

“We should be focusing on what works,” Lindsey Graham, a Republican senator from South Carolina, told the FT. “We cannot keep pouring good money after bad.” He added, “If nationalisation is what works, then we should do it.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: alangreenspan; bank; banking; banks; biggovernment; bushbailout; federalreserve; financialcrisis; marxism; nationalization; panicof2009; porkulus; rats; rinos; socialism; socialistagenda
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To: Travis McGee; JasonC

Honestly, he had a point. The failures of banks are hurting the ‘main street’ economy. We need healthy finance system for a healthy economy.

Now, as for socialism being a ‘fix’ for that, it’s an amputation to fix a bad stomach virus. Lets not give up the dynamic economy in order to salvage some institutions that made mistakes.


101 posted on 02/17/2009 9:35:47 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government)
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To: databoss

“if this were China greenspams family would be being billed for his untimely demise.”

China used to execute managers who failed.
That or send them to labor camps.


102 posted on 02/17/2009 9:36:30 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government)
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To: FlyingEagle

The banks are so crooked and broken I believe this is the only way out of the mess. It worked for the S&L industry. “

False. We never nationalized a single S&L. We simple bought assets of insolvent banks and resold them - BIG difference.
The US Govt has not operated private banks before.
The is new territory.


103 posted on 02/17/2009 9:40:59 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government)
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To: rabscuttle385
You dont have to be clairvoyant to have seen this coming since last October But I did say this then...
104 posted on 02/17/2009 9:45:20 PM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: Travis McGee; JasonC

Honestly, he had a point. The failures of banks are hurting the ‘main street’ economy. We need healthy finance system for a healthy economy.

Now, as for socialism being a ‘fix’ for that, it’s an amputation to fix a bad stomach virus. Lets not give up the dynamic economy in order to salvage some institutions that made mistakes.


105 posted on 02/17/2009 9:46:06 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government)
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To: rabscuttle385

In lieu of calling stealing, stealing, my militray dad (who fought in both WW-I and WW-II) called it “liberation.”

Stealing, liberation, nationalization ... are basically the same thing.


106 posted on 02/17/2009 9:51:00 PM PST by OldNavyVet (Individual freedom is measurable ... If taxes take all you earn, you are a slave.)
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To: Travis McGee
I'm not a banker, and you know it, and are a liar.
107 posted on 02/17/2009 9:53:39 PM PST by JasonC
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To: WOSG
Thanks. What few of the populist knuckle-draggers are willing to face up to and admit, is that the entire episode begins witn epidemic deadbeat behavior by the politicians' favorites mainstreet voters, and all of the rest of it is merely those pols seeking to appease their deadbeat masters by repealing the laws of economics. But they can't.

Deadbeats pay. A deadbeat people cannot succeed in making imaginary hated fatcats pay instead through sheer chutzpa. If they won't pay as past borrowers, they will pay as taxpayers today and as users of capital, directly or indirectly, tomorrow, but they *will* pay. Every red cent, and the defaulted ones 3-5 times over.

The attempt to avoid doing so through the exercise of political power and focused hatred directed at rich capitalists, will backfire as it always backfires, and leave the populist mascots unemployed and impoverished some more. But they will *still* pay.

108 posted on 02/17/2009 9:58:53 PM PST by JasonC
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Socialism will never work.

It works just dandy for those in charge. They couldn't care less how the rest of us suffer for their mistakes.

109 posted on 02/17/2009 10:27:49 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fouth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What do they pay for those securities with?


110 posted on 02/17/2009 10:41:05 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Bloody hell.

We have a process for Bank Nationalization: The FDIC.

If a bank needs closing, close it. I helped close Savings and Loans in the ‘80s. It isn’t the end of the world.

The government takes the bad liabilities, fires the management, returns insured deposits to depositors, pauperizes shareholders who allowed management to take too many risks on their behalf, and re-opens the bank by combining the healthy remainder with a healthy bank.

Voila!!

Why can’t we just let the regular process work to clean out the Zombie Banks? Quickly?


111 posted on 02/17/2009 10:51:25 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you are talking about Zimbabwe money.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Can’t argue with that.


112 posted on 02/17/2009 11:01:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: rabscuttle385

I think you’ve done enough Alan.


113 posted on 02/18/2009 12:05:51 AM PST by americanophile
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To: rabscuttle385

Greenspan

A truly appropo, albeit decrepit example of why we are in the current crisis.


114 posted on 02/18/2009 2:14:04 AM PST by XR7
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To: Travis McGee

“The arsonists are still in charge of the fire department.”

Well said.

Add to that the lumber yard.


115 posted on 02/18/2009 3:24:25 AM PST by shoutingandpointing
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To: rabscuttle385; Quix

Thanks. Ping.


116 posted on 02/18/2009 3:45:10 AM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Oldexpat

If our major banks are nationalized it will be the end of capitalism. No one will want to invest in any U.S. stocks. Capital will leave the United States in search of non-socialist markets.

Government interference in the mortgage business led us to our current mess. More government management is the exact opposite of what is needed to revive the economy.


117 posted on 02/18/2009 4:59:25 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: Joya

DUM DE DUM DUM
DUM DE DUM DUM
DUM DE DUM DUM DUM!

Oh Wheee.

The super Oligarchic stooge speaks in concert with the rest of the Oligarchic stooges. What a surprise.
/s


118 posted on 02/18/2009 5:20:10 AM PST by Quix (POL BOSSES say fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: DuncanWaring
What do they pay for those securities with?

They change the computer entry showing the balance held at the Fed.

119 posted on 02/18/2009 5:24:41 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Is there any limit to the value of the securities they can buy, and, if so, what is it?


120 posted on 02/18/2009 5:32:39 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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