Posted on 02/16/2009 10:49:57 AM PST by shielagolden
Obama May Place U.S. Under International Criminal Court
Waterboarding. Abu Ghraib. Detaining terrorists at Guantanamo Bay. Dissing Hans Blix. These, as seen by the Left, are the cardinal sins of George W. Bushs administration. Set aside the fraternity party-like nonsense that took place at Abu Ghraib and whats left are actions taken to protect U.S. interests.
But self-loathing Americans whose minds are confined in the cult of globalism dont see it that way. Each of these offenses has at least one thing in common: they hurt the feelings of foreigners. Insensitivity to the outside world, U.S. internationalists argue, is a stain on Uncle Sams reputation from which we must repent.
With that in mind, one more offense must be included in the list of Bushs sins. It occurred May 6, 2002, when John Bolton, on orders from the President, withdrew the U.S. from the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC). Oh, there were terrible tantrums in Turtle Bay that day! Globalists were dismayed because Mr. Bushs rejection of the ICC was a vote for American sovereignty -- a refusal to cede authority to international government and a court that is not bound to the principles of the U.S. Constitution, far less our laws.
That could change under the Obama administration.
Two weeks ago, hope returned to the House of Hammarskjold when U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice, in a closed Security Council meeting, voiced support for the ICC. She said it looks to become an important and credible instrument for trying to hold accountable the senior leadership responsible for atrocities committed in the Congo, Uganda and Darfur.
The mere mention of the International Criminal Court by the U.S. Permanent Representative drew her colleagues attention. What she said on human rights and international law I could have written myself, French ambassador Jean-Maurice Ripert told Bloomberg News. Costa Ricas Jorge Urbina said Rices speech raises expectations that the United States will submit to the authority of the ICC.
Urbina is on point. Sen. Obama said little about the ICC during his campaign for the White House. But in his first weeks as President, his actions speak less to constituents in Peoria and the Bronx than to admirers in Paris and Brussels. Obamas trans-American constituent service includes his decision to shutter Gitmo and grant his first presidential interview with Al Arabiya television.
In his inauguration speech, Obama declared that America is ready to lead once more. He said American power does [not] entitle us to do as we please. In the parlance of the Left, these suggest submission to international authority, which was raised again last week when Ben Chang, spokesman for National Security Advisor General James Jones, echoed Rices comments about the Court. In the context of an ICC indictment for Sudanese President Omar Bashir, Chang told the Washington Times, We support the ICC in its pursuit of those whove perpetrated war crimes.
So, what will ICC engagement mean for the United States? To answer that, one must read A Strategy for U.S. Engagement with the International Criminal Court, written by David Scheffer and John Hutson and issued by the Century Foundation. Scheffer was instrumental in the formation of the ICC and served as Ambassador at Large for War Crimes in the Clinton administration. Hutson was the Navys Judge Advocate General from 1997-2000.
The report is stunning in its frankness, heartbreaking in its eagerness to sacrifice American citizens for some nebulous global good. The authors complaints begin with the Bush administrations unwillingness to subject Americans to ICC indictments. They explain:
Any path toward support of the ICC will require examining long-standing concerns about the exposure of U.S. military service personnel and American political and military leaders to the court, whether or not the United States is a state party to the Rome Statute. (emphasis added)
A cornerstone of the ICC is that its jurisdiction extends only to those nations that ratify the Rome Statute. By subjecting the U.S. to the ICC even as a non-participant, the authors have turned the Rome Statute into a living document. It should be noted that the ICC itself is doing the same. Last week, Lois Morena Oncampo launched an investigation to determine if Israel can be prosecuted for attacks on Gaza. Israel is not a party to the ICC.
Scheffer and Hutson continue, stating the implications to the U.S.
If the United States were to join the ICC, they write, one would have to accept at least the theoretical possibility that American citizens (particularly political and military leaders) could be prosecuted before the ICC on charges of committing atrocity crimes. And without the protections afforded by Constitutional and laws.
What do Scheffer and Hutson mean when they suggest U.S. political leaders can be prosecuted by the ICC for atrocity crimes"? See paragraph one.
If this happens, I predict a mass exodus from the military. Those that stay in the military will not shoot. We loose.
It’s time to shine the light on this guy’s past that will get him kicked out of office.
ARGGHHH! QUIT FRACKIN’ UP OUR COUNTRY YA JERK!
Obama does this and his government is in for a world of hurt.
Another socialist, globalist idea heading to fruition, I fear.
ANY attempt to abrogate US sovereignty should be met with a most vigorous opposition. I hope the Pubbies have it in them to mount such opposition. They will certainly be able to count on every freedom loving conservative in the country, I would hope, also.
Time to reclaim the country...
You tried buying powder or primers lately ... sold out.
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Orders are being filled as fast as possible. There is a huge back log.
I can’t believe how quickly we’re going down the sh*tter. This is so sad.
Yes. Especially the part about suspending Habeas Corpus, imposing martial law - stuff like that.
Coming soon. You betcha.
Just one more thing for the next President to rescind.
Is Obama turning Clinton over to the ICC on the war crimes charges?
They’ve been waiting 10 years for him.
Oh...Mr. 0bama had best hope it does not. That would be a most egregious "misunderestimization" of the average American's love for his country and hatred of the U.N.
constitutional means only what the current members of the supreme court want it to mean. I have no confidence that 5 of the current court members are even literate. They will sign off on this just as soon as it gets to them.
We can expect Jim Robinson and etc. to be extradited to Europe and Canada for daring to criticise islam.
Given that anything you say "can and will be used against you" and given that United States Courts, prosecutors, Congress, etc. aren't going to be able to provide immunity from the ICC for anything said and given that we won't know what will come under the authority of the ICC, not just now but in the future, I guess we can't answer any questions asked by United States Courts, prosecutors, Congress, etc.
Of course, considering the Linda Trip thing and the Lautenberg Amendment, that's pretty much true already.
If you’re going to try anybody in this place for war crimes it has to be about Kosovo.
A new meaning to “Sold down the river.”
sigh...
bookmark for later.
I will never submit to the jurisdiction of any international court.
-PJ
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