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Credit-Card Issuers: Buy Something or Else!
Smart Money via Yahoo Finance ^ | 2/12/09 | Kelli B. Grant

Posted on 02/12/2009 9:09:13 AM PST by marshmallow

One of the biggest causes of the financial crisis was that Americans were borrowing (and spending) more money than they could afford to pay back.

So how are credit-card issuers reacting to consumers' attempts to live a more financially responsible lifestyle? They're threatening to cut their credit cards off if they don't spend enough.

Loretta Maxwell of Troy, Mich., thought her credit score of 790 buffered her against most of the fallout of the credit crunch. When Chase (JPM) closed her $6,000-limit card in December without warning after two years of inactivity, she called to fight it. She was unsuccessful. "If you're not using it, they entice you to do so, and then the moment you don't spend enough, they cut your limit," she says. (Chase says it is standard practice is to review inactive accounts. "Inactive cards with large open credit lines present a real risk of fraudulent use and large potential liabilities for Chase," says spokeswoman Stephanie Jacobson.)

Maxwell's experience is far from an isolated incident. Most major issuers, including Chase, Bank of America (BAC), American Express (AXP) and Citibank (C) have been slashing credit lines and closing the accounts of those who don't spend on their card regularly. While these issuers are required to notify you in writing of an account closing, there's no requirement that they do so in advance. Even when they do give early notice, the only way a cardholder can stop their account from getting shut down is to start spending again.

In December, Discover (DFS) reported that it closed three million accounts during 2008 due to inactivity, and plans to cull up to two million more. A Discover spokeswoman says the issuer is constantly reevaluating cardholder's credit and assessing whether they have the most appropriate credit line and product.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankcards; creditcards; economy; personalfinance
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Then there are folks like me. Spend a couple hundred bucks but pay it all off each month. Saw a documentary on the credit card industry on PBS a while back and I discovered that they have a name for people like me.

They call us "deadbeats" because they never make any money out of us. We pay off our balance each month.

Maybe we'll be next for the axe.

1 posted on 02/12/2009 9:09:13 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Odd, I haven’t used my Discover card in 5 years and they keep calling me to get me to use it. I wonder if they closed me.


2 posted on 02/12/2009 9:11:24 AM PST by Malsua
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To: marshmallow
Then there are folks like me. Spend a couple hundred bucks but pay it all off each month.

And then there are people like me who don't buy into the whole "gotta have credit cards" thing.

3 posted on 02/12/2009 9:12:01 AM PST by Wolfstar (Elections have thousands of consequences. Some minor, some major...and some that can kill you.)
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To: marshmallow
I recieved a missive from one of my CC companies that they were going to raise the interest on my CC from 8% to 18%.
If I didn't want this I had to call to close the account.
The account was in good standing, used it once in a while, kept a small balance on it (less than $100).

I called and told them to go ahead and cancel it. I'm not about to let a CC company increase my interest like that for an account in good standing.

4 posted on 02/12/2009 9:12:45 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: marshmallow

I got a call from one of them last fall saying I hadn’t used their card in a while, and the account was in danger of being closed. I told them not to waste any time then, please note the card was closed at customer request, and I hung up.


5 posted on 02/12/2009 9:13:33 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: marshmallow

It’s very common for card issuers to cancel a card after two years of inactivity. It’s nothing new.


6 posted on 02/12/2009 9:14:42 AM PST by sockmonkey
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To: marshmallow

Same with us, though we put essentially all expenses including any bills we can through various rewards cards. So not only do they not make any money from us (we pay off all balances every month) but we get money back.

Still don’t cry for them, the merchants pay the credit card companies quite a bit on our behalf.


7 posted on 02/12/2009 9:14:46 AM PST by Glock19C
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To: marshmallow
We're in a rowboat.
There is a hole in the rowboat, and water is coming in.
It's not clear that we will sink, but we can see there is a problem.

What we are doing now is taking a bucket, dipping it over the side, and then emptying the bucket into the rowboat.

8 posted on 02/12/2009 9:14:53 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Obama must be the Antichrist. No one else would work so hard to destroy the US.)
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To: Wolfstar
And then there are people like me who don't buy into the whole "gotta have credit cards" thing.

I hear ya. I could happily live without them.

However, for some things like making a hotel reservation, a credit card has become essential.

9 posted on 02/12/2009 9:15:11 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future"- Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow
However, for some things like making a hotel reservation, a credit card has become essential.

It's the game corporations play to force people to get credit cards.

10 posted on 02/12/2009 9:17:18 AM PST by Wolfstar (Elections have thousands of consequences. Some minor, some major...and some that can kill you.)
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To: Wolfstar

Why anybody has credit cards with the big money center banks is beyond me. They offer nothing but headaches.
Join your local credit union and get a Visa card with people you can trust and talk to. If you are a vet..try USAA also. These big banks are too busy keeping congress happy to care about “good” customers.
The service we get from our Credit Union is equal to what a mutli millionaire would get from a High Net Worth Division of the money center banks.


11 posted on 02/12/2009 9:17:24 AM PST by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: marshmallow
Maybe we'll be next for the axe.

Except that they are earning the processing fee (from the merchant) on those charges.

[I do the same -- pay off the balance very month.]
12 posted on 02/12/2009 9:17:49 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: marshmallow
I don't use my credit cards except for emergency.

I use my debit card for ordinary purchasing...but you have to keep track of what you spend.

I've gone back to my old ways...Write one check at the super market each week...using the excess for other things.

No excess?? No buy!!

13 posted on 02/12/2009 9:20:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car.)
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To: Oldexpat

You can open a USAA checking account online and do everything electronically. They also rebate ATM user fees.


14 posted on 02/12/2009 9:21:17 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: marshmallow

There’s three kinds of people: the haves, the have nots, and the haves but haven’t paid for it yet.


15 posted on 02/12/2009 9:22:14 AM PST by Walmartian
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To: marshmallow
However, for some things like making a hotel reservation, a credit card has become essential.

Also, you have more recourse for problem purchases via a credit card than with cash, especially online purchases.

Some cards even have 'extended' warranties on some purchases. I've never had to 'access' the warranty to see if they would really honor it.
16 posted on 02/12/2009 9:22:30 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Wolfstar
And then there are people like me who don't buy into the whole "gotta have credit cards" thing.

Try buying a plane ticket without one. Or, rent a car. They have their uses.

17 posted on 02/12/2009 9:25:07 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Glock19C
Glock19C said: "... the merchants pay the credit card companies quite a bit on our behalf."

My wife and I pay off our cards every month. The main one we use is an "NRA" Visa card which pays a reward to the NRA every time we use it.

I attempted one time to determine what the amount was, but neither the credit card company nor the NRA was willing to say. My guess is that the reward rate is negotiated periodically and neither party wants to make these negotiations visible for others who want similar treatment.

But my best guess is that the NRA is probably paid one percent of my purchases (based on other reward cards that we have). Since we average probably $15k on this card, that would provide NRA with $150 from us alone. That's a lot of support for NRA.

18 posted on 02/12/2009 9:25:30 AM PST by William Tell
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To: Just another Joe

capital one canceled me due to lack of use..no warning just got a letter in the mail saying it was closed....chase sent letter raising rates 5% if i didn’t like it i could close it....they call all the shots....the downside is that by them or you closing the acct it reflects negative on your credit rating so no matter what you are screwed again....


19 posted on 02/12/2009 9:25:36 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: marshmallow

I’ve found hotels will take a bank/debit card to hold a reservation, but car rental companies won’t. They require a regular credit card.


20 posted on 02/12/2009 9:26:02 AM PST by EDINVA
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