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Pro-Gitmo Kin Rage at Anti Auntie
New York Post ^ | February 12, 2009 | Carl Campanile

Posted on 02/12/2009 8:03:52 AM PST by Sergeant Tim

Edited on 02/12/2009 8:13:36 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

President Obama is caught smack in the middle of a family feud among 9/11 relatives of a financier killed at Ground Zero, The Post has learned.

The brothers of Adam Arias went ballistic when they learned that their aunt, Valerie Lucznikowska, was among the 9/11 relatives invited to last week's White House meeting with Obama. The brothers were not invited.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Testing
KEYWORDS: 200812; 20081210; 911; aclu; barackobama; gitmo; guantanamo; lucznikowska; militarycommissions; obama; peacefultomorrows; usscole; whitehouse; wot
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To: library user
Did he bump his head and try walking through a window right before all this happened?"

No. That was afterwards yet now I'm wondering if that bumping his head was intentional.

21 posted on 02/12/2009 8:35:13 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: mewzilla; Sergeant Tim
My head just exploded.

The incompetence and arrogance are unbelievable.

White House Counsel Greg Craig, often seen whispering in the president's ear during question periods, admitted later to Ms. Burlingame that the chief executive was getting the facts of the law wrong during the discussion with the families. Craig asked her if CIPA covers a case in which terrorists defend themselves, noting that "this is something we hadn't contemplated." If nothing else, this admission of ignorance is more evidence that the decision to rush ahead with closing Guantanamo and shutting down the military tribunals was ill-conceived, poorly planned, and may ultimately be injurious to our national security. The president may talk a good game about "swift, certain justice," but it is becoming clear that justice will not be swift, is highly uncertain, and in the end may not even be ju

22 posted on 02/12/2009 8:38:11 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Oh yeah! He could appoint that fat, ugly, commie broad he’s just mominated as Solicitor General to the Supreme Court (as is much predicted).


23 posted on 02/12/2009 8:38:19 AM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
We’re all in this together

Except from a number of Obots that have been defending the Obamamessiah in these pages lately.
24 posted on 02/12/2009 8:39:55 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural Born" citizen)
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To: Sergeant Tim

BUMP


25 posted on 02/12/2009 8:40:24 AM PST by kitkat (THE DAY WE LOSE OUR WILL TO FIGHT WILL BE THE DAY WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM.)
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To: KansasGirl

O’Reilly is a phony. He’s been defending zero since the campaign. Republicans (or independents) who are going to bat for this guy are putting their credibility on the line. I feel that we are winning the PR war on this one. It’s only been 3 weeks and the tide is already turning aginst Community Organizer 44.


26 posted on 02/12/2009 8:41:42 AM PST by jersey117
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

that is an understatement!


27 posted on 02/12/2009 8:42:42 AM PST by trialbyfire (Black conservatives are people too.)
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To: jersey117

tide is not turning fast enough for me.


28 posted on 02/12/2009 8:43:34 AM PST by trialbyfire (Black conservatives are people too.)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Wow... check out Sergeant Tim's post #1:

Actually, Aunt Valerie was representing the ACLU's view. She, along with several others at the meeting, signed onto a 12/10/2008 letter that is only posted on the ACLU's site. She also hacks for More Peaceful Tomorrows, a group she has belonged to since before 9/11; members of it had praised the Taliban for their treatment of women in Afghanistan after trips there. After 9/11, they added 'September 11 Families for' in front of their group's name and were among the first to protest against our inavsion of Afghanistan. Here's the real deal: the ACLU's proxies ran the guest list for the White House for last Friday's meeting, limited dissent, and plugged in ringers like Beverly. Obama is being led around by the detainees' lawyers on this and spinning just as fast as he can.

I do not tell you this to gossip; America needs to know they are being played for fools on this issue by both amateurs and olds pros now seated in the deck chairs at the Obama White House. I ask my fellow Freepers to spread the word widely near (lots of pings here) and then go wide.

One more point. Lorraine Arias-Beliveau's commentary appeared in the NY Daily News the Sunday before Friday's meeting. Surely, the New York area family members controling the invitation list (and they were) knew she was vehemently against closing Gitmo. In fact, she was there at Guantanamo observing the trials of KSM and his fellow mass-murderers when President Obama ordered the Military Commissions delayed.

29 posted on 02/12/2009 8:51:15 AM PST by nutmeg (DemocRATs: The party of tax cheats and other assorted crooks)
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To: Sergeant Tim
Thanks for getting this info out there, Sergeant Tim. I just pinged my biggest list here...

This Obama administration... ugh, my head is spinning!

30 posted on 02/12/2009 8:52:13 AM PST by nutmeg (DemocRATs: The party of tax cheats and other assorted crooks)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Could the zero be any more of a turd?

No.

31 posted on 02/12/2009 8:52:21 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well at least up to this point in his term.


32 posted on 02/12/2009 8:52:51 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: jersey117
It’s only been 3 weeks and the tide is already turning aginst Community Organizer 44.

I hope you're right, but it's not turning fast enough for me. Most polls have B. Hussein Obama up pretty high, and the idiots in my home state of Connecticut give him a near-70% approval rating. Grrrr....

33 posted on 02/12/2009 8:53:50 AM PST by nutmeg (DemocRATs: The party of tax cheats and other assorted crooks)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 02/12/2009 9:04:15 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Sergeant Tim

And the cry goes up again from Ol’bunghole’s new bleating heart left followers...O baabaabaa ma!,O baabaabaa ma!,O baabaabaa ma! save us O baabaabaa ma!


35 posted on 02/12/2009 9:05:13 AM PST by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Could the zero be any more of a turd?”

See my tagline.


36 posted on 02/12/2009 9:06:30 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Sergeant Tim

PROTESTING WAR

January 20, 2003

Valerie Lucznikowska belongs to a group called peace for tomorrow, made up of people who lost loved ones on 9/11.

VALERIE LUCZNIKOWSKA: It wasn’t Iraqis who flew into the world trade center. It was mostly Saudis on the planes. Iraq did not commit that.

BETTY ANN BOWSER: So even if the U.N. was on board?

VALERIE LUCZNIKOWSKA: Perhaps if the U.N. were completely on board. If the U.N. could vote on it completely, perhaps in that instance, because that would mean that they found true evidence. That would be a different story. But no evidence has been found. Some empty shell casings are not true evidence.

http://tinyurl.com/brokhh


37 posted on 02/12/2009 9:14:13 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Sergeant Tim

Valerie Lucznikowska, a 64-year-old Manhattanite and public relations executive, carried a sign with a picture of her 37-year-old nephew, Adam Arias, who was killed as he fled from the World Trade Center. The legend: “Not in His Name.”

Lucznikowska is a Democratic activist who thinks her party “eviscerated itself” by endorsing the war resolution in Congress. She resents the idea that bombing Baghdad would somehow ease the suffering of the victims’ families. “The 9/11 families can’t be healed by seeing other people’s families being destroyed,” she says grimly.

http://tinyurl.com/c5p6u6


38 posted on 02/12/2009 9:17:29 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Sergeant Tim

Peaceful Tomorrows was founded, in 2002, by family members of those killed in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. who have united to turn their grief into action for peace and justice. Their founding mission statement called for “a multilateral, collaborative effort to bring those responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks to justice in accordance with the principles of international law.”

LaOnf
The Iraqi civil-society organization LaOnf (which means “no violence” in Arabic) is a network of Iraqi activists building a nonviolence movement to resist occupation, terrorism and corruption in Iraq. Peaceful Tomorrows is launching a Solidarity Campaign in support of LaOnf.

Contact Information:
LaOnf Press Inquiries:

Valerie Lucznikowska
ph: 212-777-7997
cell: 917-757-7031

E-mail:
vlucznikowska@nyc.rr.com


39 posted on 02/12/2009 9:21:37 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Beckwith

Nope. Wrote that myself.

Nice try.


40 posted on 02/12/2009 9:26:20 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR......Monthly Donors Wanted)
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