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Banks Rescue Will 'Make Things Worse': Rogers
Yahoo Finance ^ | 2/10/09

Posted on 02/10/2009 12:17:28 PM PST by marshmallow

The new financial rescue plan may not work and could even make things worse because it plunges the US further into debt and it is designed by the same people who failed to forecast the crisis and take measures, legendary investor Jim Rogers told CNBC Tuesday.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner will unveil a long-awaited package of measures to help the financial sector at 11 am New York time.

But Rogers said Geithner, who was president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, "has been dead wrong about everything for 15 years in a row," and so was President Barack Obama's economic advisor Lawrence Summers, who acted as Treasury Secretary at the turn of the century.

"It is mind-boggling to me," Rogers told "Squawk Box Europe."

"If I were on your show 15 weeks in a row and was wrong, you'd probably never invite me back. These guys have been wrong year after year after year consistently and here they are making the same mistakes again. This is not going to solve the problem, it's going to make it worse."

He said he was not contemplating investing into financials, as bankruptcies were still possible, and banks were still trying to find out how affected they were by the crisis.

"What's happening is they've all panicked, cutting back everything, trying to see what they've got," Rogers said.

Big companies such as AIG (NYSE:AIG - News) or Fannie Mae (NYSE: fnm) as well as other US banks don't know how to value their assets, he said.

"Everybody is frozen, trying to figure out ok, what are we worth, what do we do?"

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banks; bhostimulus; catastrophe; depression; economy; fail; gaithner; geithner; obama; recession; rogers
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1 posted on 02/10/2009 12:17:28 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

He’s right.


2 posted on 02/10/2009 12:24:27 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: marshmallow

They know how to value their assets. All they have to do is sell a few at auction to private buyers. Each one has a history of payment and defaults and the market will value them if they are given a chance.
But, it won’t happen. As soon as there is a market then all the assets will have a known value and it is to ugly to imagine.


3 posted on 02/10/2009 12:29:28 PM PST by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: marshmallow

I think it’s supposed to.


4 posted on 02/10/2009 12:32:12 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Obama must be the Antichrist. No one else would work so hard to destroy the US.)
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To: marshmallow

He’s been saying this for a year now.


5 posted on 02/10/2009 12:33:11 PM PST by FTJM
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To: Badeye

Yes. Paulson, now Geithner, all part of the same coterie of people, covering up the derivative disaster they caused.

Now they have even no shyness about “backing” derivative car loan securities. Complete insanity, but this is why maybe Biden, now Geithner, have to claim uncertainty in result and taking chances—because there is no reason to do this.

The big banks that played with these toys should suffer alone. The buying of “toxic debt” is the payoff to foreign holders to continue to finance deficits. Neither party is talking about balancing the budget.


7 posted on 02/10/2009 12:37:09 PM PST by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: thereisno
Where do we go now?

Galt's Gulch?

8 posted on 02/10/2009 1:01:40 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Obama must be the Antichrist. No one else would work so hard to destroy the US.)
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To: marshmallow

“But Rogers said Geithner, who was president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, “has been dead wrong about everything for 15 years in a row,” and so was President Barack Obama’s economic advisor Lawrence Summers, who acted as Treasury Secretary at the turn of the century.

“It is mind-boggling to me,” Rogers told “Squawk Box Europe.”

“If I were on your show 15 weeks in a row and was wrong, you’d probably never invite me back. These guys have been wrong year after year”

It figures that Obama would pick people like this — his objective is NOT to revive the US economy, but to use the crisis as an excuse to push through his socialist agenda.


9 posted on 02/10/2009 1:42:12 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Good and evil are present in this world, and between the two there can be no compromise." GW Bush)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think it’s supposed to.

This is dawning on me. Oh my Lord.

10 posted on 02/10/2009 1:50:38 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us)
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To: La Enchiladita
to what end?.....is this the ultra rich wanting to take over the world?....the Islamists?....the Russians?.....just plain old Chicago mobsters.....

will we have elections?...will we even get our paychecks.....

I fear.......period

11 posted on 02/10/2009 3:54:08 PM PST by cherry
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To: Badeye

I am still waiting for my Hope darnit.


12 posted on 02/10/2009 3:55:58 PM PST by omega4179 (1.20.13 end of an error)
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To: marshmallow

No, no, I was told Geithner was the ONLY person in the USA who was qualified to be Treas. Secretary.


13 posted on 02/10/2009 3:59:01 PM PST by Boiling Pots (Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Theodore Dalrymple offers an explanation in his latest essay. “There is no finer way to destroy bourgeois society, said Lenin, than to debauch the currency, a policy that he therefore favoured.” Until these banks can determine who it is that holds the guarantee of risk from default in these derivatives, or credit default swaps, and to collect it, it is hard to accept the notion of any bailout from Uncle.


14 posted on 02/10/2009 4:01:34 PM PST by corvus
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To: marshmallow
But Rogers said Geithner, who was president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, "has been dead wrong about everything for 15 years in a row," and so was President Barack Obama's economic advisor Lawrence Summers, who acted as Treasury Secretary at the turn of the century.

A match made in liberal heaven.

I wonder if it's possible for POTUS public ratings to go below zero?

Me thinks we are soon to find out.

15 posted on 02/10/2009 4:55:57 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: marshmallow
Our country is now reminiscent of 'Mr. H. Dumpty'.
16 posted on 02/10/2009 5:08:52 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“Our country is now reminiscent of ‘Mr. H. Dumpty’”

Like Obama, he had a great Fall. Spring ain’t lookin so good, though.


17 posted on 02/10/2009 5:10:56 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; ..

Yeah, no crap. The gov’t (even when it’s running an overall budget surplus) borrows from the bankers to fund operations. Now we’re expected to believe that the banks can borrow money from the government — which is running deficits.

It’s a scam.


18 posted on 02/10/2009 5:10:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Rep. Kanjorski: $550 Billion Disappeared in "Electronic Run On the Banks"
Geithner's plan falls flat (Amateur Hour in D.C.)
Geithner Unveils Revised Bank Plan (Cost now: 2 trillion and climbing)
US Stocks Slide As Geithner Unveils Bank Plan [Dow down 382 pts at the close]
US unveils new $1.5 trillion plan

19 posted on 02/10/2009 5:28:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: marshmallow

Its high time to end the bailouts and let the chips fall where they are. Let the imcompetent institutions to fail and the efficient and wisely run institutions prosper.


20 posted on 02/10/2009 5:38:55 PM PST by LuxAerterna
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