Skip to comments.Get Ready for the Show Trials
Posted on 02/07/2009 4:20:36 AM PST by markomalley
Republicans will deeply regret the confirmation of Eric Holder as Attorney General. During his confirmation hearings, Holder declared without hesitation, "Waterboarding is torture." This should have terrified Republican senators because it was a sure signal to the left-wing blogosphere that they are going to enjoy four years of show trials.
Torture is a crime and Holder will prosecute President Bush and other officials for condoning it. Republicans should have jumped on his comments and opposed Holder's nomination for these dangerous views on what constitutes torture in the fight against terrorism.
Republicans tried to pressure Mr. Holder to promise not to prosecute, but he clearly refused saying, "No one is above the law." By "no one, he meant President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales and any other top Bush administration officials who authorized waterboarding. Or, as Keith Olbermann at MSNBC calls it, the "Bush System of Torture."
All the talk of bipartisanship is a sham, and Republicans are foolish to listen to any of the sweet talk. President Obama agreed with Attorney General Holder when he used the identical phrasing with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on January 11 saying, "No one is above the law." Thus far, President Obama has been vague about investigating the Bush administration saying, He wants to look forward.
But Obama told the Philadelphia Daily News that, if there was evidence of criminality, he would ask his Justice Department to immediately review the information that's already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. Once again he reaffirmed nobody is above the law.
This is how the whole scenario unfolds. First you will hear calls for prosecution from The Huffington Post, Daily Kos, MSNBC, and other liberal ideologues of the media.
Secondly, these calls will be reinforced by comments from the left-wing legal authorities or so-called "experts" such as George Washington University Law Professor Jonathan Turley, who told Rachel Maddow of MSNBC: "These are war crimes . we were going to have a true change, where people would be held accountable. And all this talk about civility makes it sound like it's just simply uncivil to investigate people for war crimes."
Law Professor Lawrence Velvel was even blunter when he told the Los Angeles Times: We must insist on appropriate punishments including, if guilt is found, the hangings visited upon top German and Japanese war criminals in the 1940s. Hangings? Such insanity wouldnt be taken serious under normal circumstances.
Jonathan Turley also told Maddow: "Most certainly. The status of George Bush is not that different from Augusto Pinochet. They've both been accused of running a torture program. Outside of this country, there is not this ambiguity about what to do about a war crime. There are four treaties that make this an international violation. So if you go abroad, and try to travel, most people abroad are going to view you not as former President George Bush -- they're going to view you as a current war criminal."
Next Congress will take action. Judiciary Chairman John Conyers announced he will push for a blue ribbon commission to fully investigate Administration activities and independent criminal probes. Conyers calls for this official investigation in a report his committee released titled Reining in the Imperial Presidency: Lessons and Recommendations Relating to the Presidency of George W. Bush.
While issuing the report, Conyers declared, Even after scores of hearings, investigations and reports, we still do not have answers to some of the most fundamental questions left in the wake of Bushs Imperial Presidency, and accused the Bush administration of a slew of crimes including allegations of torture and inhumane treatment, extraordinary rendition, warrantless domestic surveillance, the Valerie Plame Wilson leak and the U.S. Attorney General scandal."
Conyers is acting with Nancy Pelosi's full support. According to the Los Angeles Times, she herself is actively pushing for an investigation into the Bush administration's handling of the Justice Department. In justifying these investigations, Pelosi declared, I think that we have to learn from the past, and we cannot let the politicizing of, for example, the Justice Department, go unreviewed.
And the bottom line is this: The lunatic left will not rest until President Bush is behind bars, or worse. For some activists taking vengeance on the former president and his administration is their number one priority. Arrest Bush signs were everywhere on the Washington mall the day Barack Obama took the oath of office.
In the end, Mr. Holder will succumb to pressure and appoint a special prosecutor to focus exclusively on Bush's crimes. That will take these issues off Holder's desk, and ensure years of investigation. The truth is the Obama administration would like nothing better than to prosecute, convict and imprison President Bush and members of his administration.
Communists need to have a visible enemy to focus the rage of the Sheeple.
That is why it is so important that we protect the Second Amendment at all costs.
That's right. But they don't have to follow through and I'd bet my house they won't. It's all propaganda and it's even better for them if the corrupt dems play it out as long as possible, keeping the threat alive and in the news rags and stirring up the sheeple. Demonize, demonize, demonize.
Straight out of the marxist playbook.
If the statements from the left in this article come to pass, we will have become the next banana Republic (minus the bananas). When that happens, it will be time for the citizenry to restore truth in government, at all costs.
If anyone doubts this will happen, look how quickly Obami dumped the Hopey Changey stuff in place of the FEAR! stuff, the talk of bipartisanship with “I won,” and the “changing the tone” thing with the jabs at Republicans.
This is very true. They are taking a page from the Latin American leftist playbook (notice the reference to Pinochet).
There’s a show trial of the former president of Bolivia going on in Bolivia right now, although fortunately the man had the common sense to flee and they can’t get him at the moment. But the political pressure on the part of the radical leftist government of Evo Morales actually has gotten so extreme that even some of the judges have resigned. Infighting has broken out.
Like Morales, I think Obama may overplay his hand here; but then, that’s usually what brings down a dictator.
However, it’s going to get really ugly for awhile.
Surprised about Turley being such a tool. I knew he leaned left, but he always appeared to at least make an appearance of being rational.
“It’s all propaganda and it’s even better for them if the corrupt dems play it out as long as possible, keeping the threat alive and in the news rags and stirring up the sheeple. Demonize, demonize, demonize.”
Just like the “farmer derangement syndrome” in Animal Farm. When the pigs felt their support slipping they whipped the crowd into a frenzy by bringing up the farmer’s name.
Even something as simple as reading a book might help people to be clued in to what’s going on.
an excellant analysis...wow.
Do conservatives have enough motivation to get out and get the word out to fellow voters?
The fact that Obama is following Bush's policies in terms of bailouts, Iraq, etc. shows that while Bush did things I disagree with, he was acting in good faith, and Obama has little choice but to behave as Bush did.
So he will have to draw the line between himself and Bush.
Much of what Obama has done since the inauguration shows that liberals are hypocrites for giving Obama a pass on things Bush did. They, too, want to label Bush forever, so even if historians ultimately are kind to him, they will still be forced to label him a criminal, ala Nixon. (Libs would have little choice but to praise Nixon for China, his environmental policies, his social policies--Nixon being no conservative--were it not for Watergate.)
I don't even think this is up for debate: Obama will prosecute Bush, and be shaking his head and regretting the horror of it all while he pushes his DOJ to do it.
And don't forget his intense interest in showing the rest of the world he's their president, too. I wouldn't be surprised if indeed he did put Bush on trial at the Hague.
He cannot prosecute from the grave
“Holder will prosecute President Bush and other officials for condoning it.”
Nope. I don’t believe this. The radical ignoramuses of the Democrat party would like to do this, but I very much doubt it will happen.
“Do conservatives have enough motivation to get out and get the word out to fellow voters?”
10 posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:18:31 AM by Gondring
Won’t do any good. They won’t listen. I told dozens of people who were going to vote for obama before the election about him and his political philosphy. Not one listened. The comments they made ws, “He can’t be any worse than we already have” and “Things can’t get worse than they already are”.
Soon enough they will see that things are going to get much worse than they were then. But they will refuse to recognize it. They will continue to believe the main stream media instead of what their lying eyes show them.
......Do conservatives have enough motivation to get out and get the word out to fellow voters.....
No. Conservatives as a group will not act. The rely on a few motivated individuals to carry their water. The average run of the mill conservative will do nothing
“get ready for the show trials.”
communists will be communists.
(one day these communist swine are going to be recognized as the tyrannical punks that they are.)
In Germany during the 1930’s and early 1940’s many a Jew on their way to the camps also thought the same thing. To wit: “They will never do this”, “This can't be happening”.
They can and will do that. When It will occur and how it will occur I cannot say. It will happen in one of two ways" 1. They will trump up charges and bring him before a kangeroo court in the U.S. 2. They will turn him over to the wcc to be tried for "crimes against humanity" No Democrat will be tried because the losers do not get to try the winners.
Trust me...I have taught history in the past. I honestly DOUBT that this will happen, though some want it to.
I am FAR more concerned about inept government control of the economy and the money being funneled into ACORN and another activist group (which endangers free and honest elections....among other things).
I hope that you are correct. But the only thing I doubt obama and his henchmen doing is something that is good and decent.
The inmates are now running the asylum.
And like two skunks engaging in a pissing contest or two elephants engaging in a shitting contest, no good will become of it.
Obama as President is torture too.
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