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Loess problems (Biblical Flood provides better explanation for distribution of loess)
CMI ^ | Michael J. Oard

Posted on 01/29/2009 6:26:00 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Loess, generally considered to be wind-blown silt, has caused a number of problems for uniformitarism. The major problems are the missing periglacial loess from past ice ages, a lack of a source for the immense volume of loess (covering about 10% of Earth’s land surface) and the lack of eroded loess from past ice ages. How loess is produced has also caused a quandary for uniformitarians, with only fluvial tumbling in mixed-sized sediment producing a large volume of silt. However, the Flood and post-Flood Ice Age provide a more plausible framework in which to explain the volume and distribution of loess. Extreme turbulence in the Flood would have provided the right context for producing the necessary silt, which may have been reworked during the dry, deglacial phase of the Ice Age...

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KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; intelligentdesign; loess
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1 posted on 01/29/2009 6:26:01 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: gondramB; editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; ...

ping!


2 posted on 01/29/2009 6:26:44 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Can’t wait to see what coyoteman has to say about this one!

Oh wait....


3 posted on 01/29/2009 6:32:30 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Uniformitarism? Gradualism? I thought we’d all moved beyond that.


4 posted on 01/29/2009 6:36:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: GodGunsGuts

Well, this should be a grand discussion … just put the popcorn in the microwave. ;-)


5 posted on 01/29/2009 6:38:41 PM PST by doc1019 (We are in great need of another revolution in this country!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

All I have to add is this:

THE CORRECT PRONUNCIATION IS “LUSS”.

If I hear one more person say “lowess”, I’m gonna bust a vein in my head.


6 posted on 01/29/2009 6:45:05 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I guess I must have missed that — what did he do (that he didn’t always do?)


7 posted on 01/29/2009 6:47:47 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: mamelukesabre

Well blow an artery! To the MidWest geologists: “lowess”.


8 posted on 01/29/2009 6:55:26 PM PST by TaMoDee
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To: GodGunsGuts

Calling in your support staff I see.


9 posted on 01/29/2009 7:01:22 PM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: GodGunsGuts
The Loess Hills are comprised of three major layers. From oldest to youngest, the layers are known as the Loveland Loess, (120,000 to 159,000 years old), the Pisgah Loess (25,000 to 31,000 years old), and the Peoria Loess (12,500-25,000 years old). Clues in the loess layers help geologists determine the rate at which the loess was deposited. For example, ripples mean accumulation took place very quickly. Thin dark bands in the loess indicate the presence of soil and vegetation which means little or no deposition was occurring. Erosion has exposed other geologic formations beneath the loess, such as glacial deposits of sand and gravel and much-older limestone rocks. A 15-inch layer of volcanic ash can be seen in some road cuts, the result of eruptions at now-extinct volcanoes near Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming more than 710,000 years ago. Areas of solid bedrock can be observed in deep quarries along the western edge of the Loess Hills.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/info/loess/
10 posted on 01/29/2009 7:01:22 PM PST by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: ClearCase_guy
I guess I must have missed that — what did he do (that he didn’t always do?)

On an evo thread earlier today, he tried to tell some other posters what they could and couldn't post. They complained, the admins got involved, and coyoteman ended up flinging poo at Jim Robinson his-say-yelf.

Bye bye, c-man.

11 posted on 01/29/2009 7:03:39 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: TaMoDee

That’s cuz a geologist is an engineering school dropout.

Foundation engineers say “luss”!

The father of soils engineering...TERZAGHI...said “luss”.

That’s the facts jack.


12 posted on 01/29/2009 7:04:50 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Yep, complaining about an ignoramous claiming that evolution was exactly equivalent to satanism, is apparently out of bounds.


13 posted on 01/29/2009 7:05:53 PM PST by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: mamelukesabre

LUSS is what Carter said he had in his heart. And Lowess is used as the opposite of “Your Highess” as in “Your Lowess”.

If that vein pops, can you send pictures?


14 posted on 01/29/2009 7:08:12 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
However, the Flood and post-Flood Ice Age provide a more plausible framework in which to explain the volume and distribution of loess.

One thing about your flood that I've always wondered about. Ignoring for the moment that the water cycle makes such a flood impossible, it doesn't change the fact that about 96.5% of all water on earth is salt water. Raise the level of the oceans by thousands of feet, enough to cover all the land by x number of cubits, and you have turned all the remaining fresh water into salt water as well. So cover the entire earth with oceans and what did Noah drink when the ark landed and how did they grow food on land rendered untillable by extended submersion in salt water?

15 posted on 01/29/2009 7:12:28 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cacoethes_resipisco
Yep, complaining about an ignoramous claiming that evolution was exactly equivalent to satanism, is apparently out of bounds.

No, but telling JR how to run his own forum is.

16 posted on 01/29/2009 7:15:26 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Interestingly, back in the old days, the creationists denied all evidence of ice ages (they are, after all, not mentioned in the bible) and claimed glacial features were the result of the “flood”.

http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/part-14-evidence-for-ice-ages-through.html

But, hey, they could never be wrong, right?


17 posted on 01/29/2009 7:15:45 PM PST by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: Non-Sequitur

Satan created salt AFTER the flood, dummy.


18 posted on 01/29/2009 7:16:38 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: GodGunsGuts
Iowa's Loess Hills, which run along the Missouri River Valley from Sioux City south to St. Joseph, MO, have a dear place in my heart. They have a unique beauty that photographs don't fully do justice to.


19 posted on 01/29/2009 7:17:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance (God is watching and listening.)(The Personhood Imperative: www.BanAbortionNOW.com)
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To: count-your-change

THANKS TO YOU, THE LEFT SIDE OF MY FACE IS NOW PARALYZED!

Some lower forms of life say “lowess”. The rest of the lower forms of life say “lowce”. Those of us with frontal lobes say “luss”.

Are you seriously quoting a peanut farmer??


20 posted on 01/29/2009 7:17:39 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
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