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Mexico on Edge of Chaos
Newsmax ^ | Jan. 26, 2009 | Jonathan Adam, Christian Science Monitor

Posted on 01/27/2009 10:40:51 AM PST by AuntB

The macabre admission is just the latest indication of the depth of Mexico's drug violence. Some US observers say the cartels now pose a direct threat to the Mexican government's survival, and, by extension, a growing security threat to the US.

The state prosecutors' office said it was looking into more than 450 missing persons' cases from the past eight years.

The Wall Street Journal wrote in an opinion piece that the "body count" in drug-related violence in Mexico so far this year is already 354. It noted that a police commander was recently beheaded in the Mexican state of Chihuahua, an "increasingly popular tactic."

As bad as the violence is, it could get worse, and it is becoming clear that the U.S. faces contagion. In recent months, several important American voices have raised concerns about the risks north of the border.

The paper reported that the US Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia, "warned recently that an unstable Mexico 'could represent a homeland security problem of immense proportions to the United States.'"

The newspaper said that the US Joint Forces Command report was only one of several alarms being sounded on the security situation south of the border.

Retired U.S. Army Gen. Barry R. McCaffrey, the former U.S. drug agency director, said in a separate analysis on Mexico that the government "is not confronting dangerous criminality -- it is fighting for its survival against narco-terrorism" and could lose effective control of large swaths near the U.S. border.

The outgoing CIA director, Michael V. Hayden, listed Mexico with Iran as a possible top challenge for President Obama.

And former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich said this month that Mexico could turn into a surprise crisis for the new president by year's end.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; mexico; narcoterrorism; warnextdoor
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"As bad as the violence is, it could get worse, and it is becoming clear that the U.S. faces contagion. In recent months, several important American voices have raised concerns about the risks north of the border."
1 posted on 01/27/2009 10:40:51 AM PST by AuntB
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To: AuntB
I've always thought that we needed a wall.

And I've always thought that a belt of landmines should be included with the wall.

2 posted on 01/27/2009 10:43:49 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: AuntB

“It” moved North of the border a long time ago.

Sad so many that could have helped stop it instead sought to enable it even more by ignoring it for their own purposes.


3 posted on 01/27/2009 10:45:46 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: AuntB

Wonder what resident Zero thinks will happen when it all falls apart in Mexico and we face a rush of 30 or 40 million more illegals in a matter of weeks or months.


4 posted on 01/27/2009 10:46:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: AuntB
Mexico on Edge of Chaos

Actually, with the Three Stooges -- Barry, Harry and Nancy -- trying to manage the lunatic asylum called DeeCee, this country isn't that far away from going over the top either.

5 posted on 01/27/2009 10:48:11 AM PST by Zakeet (There is only one thing that can kill the liberalism, and that is education)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Sad so many that could have helped stop it instead sought to enable it even more by ignoring it for their own purposes.”

And they still refuse to see it!


6 posted on 01/27/2009 10:49:06 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: AuntB
Mexico declared independence in 1810...I can't think of any time since then when it hasn't been on the 'Edge of Chaos.'
7 posted on 01/27/2009 10:49:22 AM PST by americanophile
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To: cripplecreek

They won’t mind if we send the 4th and 7th Infantry Divisions down to the border then? We will have Armored Cavalry available soon too!


8 posted on 01/27/2009 10:49:30 AM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: AuntB
This situation is no different from a dozen or so other situations in that we know about it but have taken no steps whatsoever to lessen the danger. We have become a nation that simply can't anticipate and handle its problems. No problem ever gets solved, really solved. They just throw money and blame at it, and then move on to the next problem.

One of these days it's all going to catch up with us. Not to be a parade-pisser, but we are in for tough times. And I don't know the answer.

9 posted on 01/27/2009 10:49:32 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: AuntB

Only recent history has shown Mexico to have any semblance of a stable government. Fragmentation and revolution is the pattern of Mexico, usually with banditos involved. What is new is that drugs are the catalyst.

Now, perhaps we understand their need for “open borders” and the Mexican government’s advocay of prosecuting our Border Patrol Agents.


10 posted on 01/27/2009 10:50:51 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: jwparkerjr

I hear ya! Agreed.


11 posted on 01/27/2009 10:51:25 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: AuntB

Unfortunately, too many of our politicans are pro-Mexico and anti-American.

It would not be too difficult to contain the Mexican narco-violence....secure the border....no US entry thru Mexican border....suspension and abrogation of NAFTA (useless trade deal if with narco terrorists)...deportation of all illegal Mexicans....moving all incarcerated Mexicans into solitary confinement

Unfortunately, both parties lack the leadership to protect America. If this crap w Mexico gets out of hand, do not be surprised a third party candidate wins in the US presidency in 2012


12 posted on 01/27/2009 10:52:12 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Memo To George W. Bush: Geo. Washington, Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt all were Protectionists....)
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To: DBCJR

America has always been the Mexican safety valve to keep the pressure cooker from exploding. It isn’t politically correct to say so but it sure seems like revolution and unrest are the natural state of most latin American nations.


13 posted on 01/27/2009 10:53:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: AuntB

Who wants the job of trying to convince me that only the pure and willing to work are the ones coming North across our border?

The days of the Bracero” are long gone.


14 posted on 01/27/2009 10:55:56 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: AuntB
"Mexico on Edge of Chaos"

A reference to having a common border with the US?

15 posted on 01/27/2009 10:55:57 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s the way it “appears”, to be politically correct.


16 posted on 01/27/2009 10:56:12 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: cripplecreek

Not only that, from a couple friends I know living in AZ and TX very close to the border, most of the news is being heavily filtered onto the national scene with regards to the violence and drugs associated with ‘the unrest’ in Mexico. Cross border hits (murder on US soil, kidnappings, beatings, cuttings) are common place now not to mention local LEO’s are doing very little to stop incoming product. We here do not even get 1/100th of the news of what’s happening now.


17 posted on 01/27/2009 11:00:53 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“Unfortunately, both parties lack the leadership to protect America. If this crap w Mexico gets out of hand, do not be surprised a third party candidate wins in the US presidency in 2012”

That sure wouldn’t break my heart....hell of a price we’ve had to pay for it, eh?


18 posted on 01/27/2009 11:04:14 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: AuntB
Mexico's governments have always been one cartel or another..
Its just a matter of which cartel.. is in power..
If being in "power" is a relevent word..

Mexico has NEVER had what you call a government..

Democracy is always MOB RULE(by mobsters)... in the best of circumstances..

Looks America is no longer a Republic.. but a democracy..

19 posted on 01/27/2009 11:05:15 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: cripplecreek
Wonder what resident Zero thinks will happen when it all falls apart in Mexico and we face a rush of 30 or 40 million more illegals in a matter of weeks or months.

Amnesty and 30 or 40 million permanent (d) voters.

20 posted on 01/27/2009 11:06:23 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dissent is patriotic - Hussein is not and will never be my president.)
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