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Our First FReeper Book Club: Atlas Shrugged
A Publius Essay | 15 January 2009 | Publius

Posted on 01/15/2009 10:32:08 AM PST by Publius

Over the past few weeks, Ayn Rand’s classic, Atlas Shrugged, has been mentioned in articles in the Wall Street Journal and among conservative and libertarian bloggers. Two questions are being debated by those who have read the book.

  1. Are we living in a time line that follows the book?
  2. What chapter are we in?

Besides those who have read the book, there are FReepers with little awareness of Rand and her work. Some are turned off by the length of her works of fiction. Some of a more religious bent have problems with Rand’s atheism. Some wish she had left the few sex scenes out. Some just think she’s a bad writer.

I would like to propose our first FReeper Book Club effort: A chance for a group of us to read Atlas Shrugged together, both old hands and newcomers to the book. Once this effort settles in, I or others might want to start FReeper Book Clubs dedicated to Forrest McDonald’s States’ Rights and the Union, or Alexis de Toqueville’s Democracy in America. I like the idea of an interleaved reading of both the “Federalist Papers” and “Anti-Federalist Papers” together in strict chronological order so as to see the point and counterpoint of the debate over the Constitution. I’ve picked Atlas Shrugged for starters because it’s a hot topic and it’s fun. Once we get into the habit of reading and discussing together, we can tackle the heavier stuff.

The book is divided into 30 chapters. I propose to post a thread on one chapter every Saturday, which would make 30 threads over a period of 30 weeks to cover the entire book. I’ll provide a short synopsis of the chapter, expound on certain themes and raise questions to stimulate debate. If FReeper Book Club members feel that a faster pace is better, we can settle on one.

Atlas and Me

I came to Atlas Shrugged via the usual method: I read it in high school. The bully who sat behind me and enjoyed pounding me at the Catholic prep school I attended in New Jersey exposed me to the book by hitting me on the head with it. Its weight made an immediate impression. Our sophomore English teacher was not teaching the book, and he suggested that the bully pound me with something of lesser weight, such as The Red Badge of Courage.

The English teacher panned the book, stating that it was the kind of book an immature person might enjoy, but a mature adult with experience of the world could not take Rand seriously. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were not realistic.

The vice principal, a priest from Brooklyn who believed in FDR, JFK, LBJ and God, in that order, excoriated Rand for writing “an anti-Christian epic” and broadly hinted that the bully was sinning by reading it. Better to hit someone over the head with it. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were evil.

I read the book anyway.

The Strange World of Atlas Shrugged

Rand’s book was written between 1945 and 1956 and published in 1957. During the postwar years, America saw massive changes in society and technology, and the shape of world politics shifted mightily. None of this is reflected in the book. Some of the differences between Rand’s world and our own are rather egregious and require comment.

The easiest way to explain these anomalies is to say that Rand lacked the scientific background to project technological change and simply dealt with the technology of her era while projecting political change. But then how did she project the use of ultrasound for Project Xylophone and the holographic projection that protected Galt’s Gulch? There is a strange mix of the old and the new. What marks a total departure from our reality is the change in politics and in the American character.

One can accept all this as artist’s license, but I tried to come up with my own logic for how Rand’s America came to this pass.

Alternative History: Trying the Harry Turtledove Approach

If one wanted to create an alternative history for the universe of Atlas Shrugged, one could start with the 4-way election of 1948. In this alternative history, Henry Wallace won the race, defeating Truman, Dewey and Thurmond, establishing a Labor government on the British model in America. The warning voices of Martin Dies, John Bricker, Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon were stilled.

Wallace wanted no cold war with the Soviets, and with the quick withdrawal of American forces from Europe, Germany was reunified under a communist People’s State government. The Soviet Union, now the People’s State of Russia, never geared up for war, settling instead for passive mediocrity. Britain never rejected Clement Atlee, and with the abolition of the monarchy and the establishment of a written constitution on the German model, the People’s State of England replaced the United Kingdom. In France, De Gaulle never came to power, and the Fourth Republic morphed into the People’s State of France.

In the Western Hemisphere, figures similar to Fidel Castro established the People’s State of Mexico and other communist countries in Central and South America.

America did not go all the way to People’s State status, however, although intellectuals worked hard toward that end. Instead, America became a gray, downtrodden country accepting an atmosphere of sad decay, much like England today. Americans accepted that things were hopeless and that nothing could be done. Feelings replaced facts. The very nature of reality was questioned.

It took only a decade of economic stasis, misguided politics and cultural pollution to create the hell described by Rand.

Some Thoughts on the Movie

A scriptwriter would have a hard time shrinking the story to fill a two or three hour time slot even if all the long speeches were eliminated. A miniseries for television would have served the book better.

This effort would be a production designer’s dream. I would point to John Vallone, who handled production design for Walter Hill’s 1984 classic, “Streets of Fire”. Vallone created a fascinating mix of Fifties and Eighties that had no parallel in real time. Something in the same vein would make the movie memorable, rather than setting it in the present or a future that looks like the present.

Let’s Get Started

I will build a ping list for our FReeper Book Club, so sign in on this thread. I’ll use the keyword “freeperbookclub” to mark these threads as they are posted.

Welcome to our first effort. Prepare to read and discuss.


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To: MrB; AmericanGirlRising

Concur regarding TRTS, I consider it to be one of the most important books of the twentieth century.

If you’ve never read anything by Thomas Sowell, by all means do so.


81 posted on 01/15/2009 11:19:08 AM PST by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
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To: Publius

Time to read again. We are sure to relive that book with Zero in the WH.


82 posted on 01/15/2009 11:19:21 AM PST by MtnClimber (You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows,)
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To: AmericanGirlRising
Nope. I am reading Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler : The Age of Social Catastrophe.
83 posted on 01/15/2009 11:19:40 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Publius

Good Idea Pubius, please add me to the FR Book Club ping:
My reading list is long and getting longer, I use Amazon Wishlist to keep track of what I want to read.

Some of my most recent reads included:

Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy...by M. Stanton Evans

The Venona Secrets, Exposing Soviet Espionage and America’s Traitors by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel

Comrade J by Pete Earley


84 posted on 01/15/2009 11:20:02 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Publius
30 threads over a period of 30 weeks to cover the entire book

Supposedly, the long awaited mini-series is to be aired on NBC in June - with Angelina as Dagney (which isn't good sign)

But, hopefully, enough of the message will leak through to wake some people up...

85 posted on 01/15/2009 11:20:25 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Publius

Add me please.


86 posted on 01/15/2009 11:21:06 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Publius

I re-read it last summer. Should be fresh enough in my mind to be a part of this discussion. Please add me to the list.


87 posted on 01/15/2009 11:22:04 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (The U.S. Constitution may be flawed, but it's a whole lot better than what we have now)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

I done did rread this one about 3 years agoo, it be long, but the men be hot.


88 posted on 01/15/2009 11:22:46 AM PST by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Publius

Just bought it! Add me to the list please.

Thank you!


89 posted on 01/15/2009 11:23:34 AM PST by CTGOPPER (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah!)
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To: Publius

Just bought it! Add me to the list please.

Thank you!


90 posted on 01/15/2009 11:23:35 AM PST by CTGOPPER (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah!)
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To: Publius

Sign me up.


91 posted on 01/15/2009 11:23:37 AM PST by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
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To: George Smiley

I’ve read as many of T Sowell’s books that I can get my hands on.

Everyone who wants to understand the lib mindset (and you need to understand them to defeat them) needs to read “Conflict of Visions”.... twice.


92 posted on 01/15/2009 11:23:42 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: George Smiley
I enjoy Sowell's columns, but have never read one of his books. Any recommendations on which to choose first?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Thomas+Sowell&x=0&y=0

93 posted on 01/15/2009 11:24:26 AM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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To: Publius

Sure, can’t have enough pings.


94 posted on 01/15/2009 11:24:49 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Have you read Anthem?


95 posted on 01/15/2009 11:24:58 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (The U.S. Constitution may be flawed, but it's a whole lot better than what we have now)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I’ve participated in on-line “reading groups” before and I’ve enjoyed them. However, this book isn’t really my cup of tea for a read. It’s apparently dated in terms of historical development with too many anachronisms. Since I pretty much stick to history books I don’t think I can suspend my disbelief enough to read it.

However, I will lurk on the threads for the philosophical discussion, which I expect will be quite enlightening. Feel free to ping me when the new chapters are posted for discussion.

Thanks for starting the group and also for the invite.


96 posted on 01/15/2009 11:26:35 AM PST by henkster (When I was young I was told anyone could be President. Now I believe it.)
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To: maine-iac7
In the sequel - if there had been one


97 posted on 01/15/2009 11:26:42 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Publius
Atlas Shrugged is too dated to work without a total rewrite.

Mine are not only up to date, they are a few years ahead.


98 posted on 01/15/2009 11:26:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: The Louiswu

Atlas shrugs, we the living and the Fountainhead all helped to shape who I am. I read them a zillion years ago and only recall certain small aspects about her philosophy. (A is A objectivism etc.)She was a brilliant mind and those who only get the atheistic part of it have missed much of her philosophy which is a slight variation of free market capitalism, IMHO.


99 posted on 01/15/2009 11:27:42 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Publius

Well-written synopsis. Please include me in your club. While I may not have the liberty to participate at a level I want, and I certainly can’t guarantee any measure of erudiition when I do, I am always eager to monitor an intellectual exercise this ambitious.


100 posted on 01/15/2009 11:28:03 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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