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BREAKING ON FOX: HAMAS AGREES TO UNCONDITIONAL CEASEFIRE
FOX NEWS ^ | Jan 14, 2009 | FOX NEWS

Posted on 01/14/2009 9:07:46 AM PST by Islander7

No details, reported on Fox


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ceasefire; fatah; hamas; intifada; intifadeh; islam; israel; promisedland; religionofpeace; rop; teroroist; terrorism
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To: Rennes Templar

Last I heard was that the Israelis were on the outskirts of Gaza city itself with its 1/2 million population.


101 posted on 01/14/2009 9:54:18 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: edcoil
The correct term for the slime is "Hudna". Hudna (هدنة) is an Arabic term meaning "truce" or "armistice" as well as "calm" or "quiet", coming from a verbal root meaning "calm". It is sometimes translated as "cease-fire". In the Lisan al-Arab (Ibn al-Manzur's definitive dictionary of classical Arabic, dating to the 14th century) it is defined as follows: "hadana: he grew quiet. hadina: he quieted (transitive or intransitive). haadana: he made peace with. The noun from each of these is hudna." A particularly famous early hudna was the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah between Muhammad and the Quraysh tribe. According to Umdat as-Salik, a medieval summary of Shafi'i jurisprudence, hudnas with a non-Muslim enemy should be limited to 10 years: "if Muslims are weak, a truce may be made for ten years if necessary, for the Prophet made a truce with the Quraysh for that long, as is related by Abu Dawud" ('Umdat as-Salik, o9.16).
102 posted on 01/14/2009 9:54:45 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: Islander7

Anytime that they are allowed to reload they consider themselves the winners. So if a cease fire is done they will be dancing and shouting and getting their weapons reloaded.


103 posted on 01/14/2009 9:57:20 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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To: r9etb

It means that they want the Israelis to stop shooting without Hamas agreeing to anything.


104 posted on 01/14/2009 9:58:43 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is living proof that stupid people should not be allowed to vote.)
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To: edcoil

Hamas took advantage of the opportunity to flip GWB the finger one last time, and to pre-test 0bambi. They are taking time out to score his answer sheet.

Give it a few weeks. They’ll be back and they’ll bring friends. :(


105 posted on 01/14/2009 10:01:01 AM PST by shoutingandpointing (Just say, "nn-nn-NO!" to Campbell's soup.)
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To: Islander7

Is his the same unconditional cease fire thay have agreed to 6-8 times before only to break within 24 hours?

Kill them all!


106 posted on 01/14/2009 10:09:38 AM PST by dbacks (God help the USA.)
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To: thefactor

“this will only hinder israel....”

Yep its just another tactic. If Israel is smart it will keep on until THEY decide they’ve thoroughly cleared out the terrorist playground.


107 posted on 01/14/2009 10:12:55 AM PST by jackv (Just shakin' my head!!)
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To: elhombrelibre; Islander7
Opinion piece from the NY Times:

Why Israel Can’t Make Peace With Hamas

************************EXCERPT**************************

JEFFREY GOLDBERG Published: January 13, 2009

IN the summer of 2006, at a moment when Hezbollah rockets were falling virtually without pause on northern Israel, Nizar Rayyan, husband of four, father of 12, scholar of Islam and unblushing executioner, confessed to me one of his frustrations.

We were meeting in a concrete mosque in the Jabalya refugee camp in northern Gaza. Mr. Rayyan, who was a member of the Hamas ruling elite, and an important recruiter of suicide bombers until Israel killed him two weeks ago (along with several of his wives and children), arrived late to our meeting from parts unknown.

He was watchful for assassins even then, and when I asked him to describe his typical day, he suggested that I might be a spy for Fatah. Not the Mossad, mind you, not the C.I.A., but Fatah.

What a phantasmagorically strange conflict the Arab-Israeli war had become! Here was a Saudi-educated, anti-Shiite (but nevertheless Iranian-backed) Hamas theologian accusing a one-time Israeli Army prison official-turned-reporter of spying for Yasir Arafat’s Fatah, an organization that had once been the foremost innovator of anti-Israeli terrorism but was now, in Mr. Rayyan’s view, indefensibly, unforgivably moderate.

108 posted on 01/14/2009 10:17:01 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Islander7


"It's a trap!"
109 posted on 01/14/2009 10:20:30 AM PST by reagan_fanatic ("You got that, camera guy?")
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To: Kozak; edcoil; SJackson; Marine_Uncle
H/T to Hot Air for pointing to NY Times opinion piece....link at post #198.

***********************Conclusion EXCERPT********************

The only small chance for peace today is the same chance that existed before the Gaza invasion: The moderate Arab states, Europe, the United States and, mainly, Israel, must help Hamas’s enemy, Fatah, prepare the West Bank for real freedom, and then hope that the people of Gaza, vast numbers of whom are unsympathetic to Hamas, see the West Bank as an alternative to the squalid vision of Hassan Nasrallah and Nizar Rayyan.

110 posted on 01/14/2009 10:21:07 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s better to destroy Hamas now than to let them live to fight another day.


111 posted on 01/14/2009 10:21:39 AM PST by elhombrelibre (The MSM has its president elect.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

link at post #108.


112 posted on 01/14/2009 10:22:07 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: shoutingandpointing

Hamas will not honor a ceasefire agreement, period. The ceasefire would only pertain to the IDF and Hamas will continue to fire at will. Hamas is not a “Nation” and the UN will/can only hold recognized “Nations” to the humanitarian rules and regulations. Hamas will only get a strongly worded letter form the UN.

Sniper63


113 posted on 01/14/2009 10:24:29 AM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Islander7

Hamas needs time to lick their wounds and re-group. And maybe reinforce indoctrination to some Gazan’s who might just be getting a wee bit tired of being in a war zone.

Israel may be getting their intel and targeting down really well too. Hamas may need a change to move locations.

IMO, Israel needs to keep pounding the snot out of them. Because P-E Obamination will probably be publically admonishing them to stop soon enough.

And Israel should tell him just exactly where to get off.


114 posted on 01/14/2009 10:26:05 AM PST by prairiebreeze (These are the times that try men's souls.)
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To: BigFinn; All
Juice Killed My Sister
115 posted on 01/14/2009 10:26:43 AM PST by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: edcoil

“Need time to reload?”

Probably. They need to find more young kids to strap inside of schools and other places they are firing from.

They need those civilian casualties to win the PR war.


116 posted on 01/14/2009 10:29:43 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I can't wait for January 20, 2013")
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To: Islander7

Unconditional? They are on the ropes. Hit em now and hard. Finish them.


117 posted on 01/14/2009 10:31:23 AM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Well,....this doesn't seem consistent with someone wanting peace....:

Terrific: Hamas launches HamasTube

Also ....video clip of Weaponry found inside a Mosque...by the IDF.

118 posted on 01/14/2009 10:31:34 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Pox

The minute they stop, nuke ‘em.


119 posted on 01/14/2009 10:36:43 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: thefactor
but israel will have no choice.

As a sovereign nation, Israel always has a choice.

I sincerely hope they choose to tell the whiners to screw off and then continue to pound the tar outta the muzzies.

120 posted on 01/14/2009 10:37:50 AM PST by upchuck (Get ready for 2009: Pray; Raise/conserve cash; Pay your debts; Pray; Stockpile; Buy ammo; Pray)
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