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It may be true that some of the natural processes that may contribute to global warming (or cooling) aren't completely understood. The point is, the burden of proof regarding anthropogenic global warming is on them.
1 posted on 01/08/2009 11:57:18 AM PST by pjd
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That’s very good!

Need to go to the link to see the diagrams.


32 posted on 01/08/2009 6:24:03 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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35 posted on 01/08/2009 7:31:56 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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Great work !

Thanks


37 posted on 01/08/2009 7:44:12 PM PST by JMJJR (Newspeak is the official language of Oceana)
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Consider yourself *highly* commended, sir!

Cheers!

38 posted on 01/08/2009 8:30:28 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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The problem that I have is that the global warming alarmists have a slightly different take on the basic assumptions.

I will take the liberty of rephrasing your assumptions, the way they see it.

Fact:
Greenhouse gasses cause the atmospheric temperature to be higher than atmospheres without them.

Higher concentrations of Greenhouse gasses cause higher temperatures.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

Fact: Since the beginning of the industrial age,

1. human activity has produced large amounts of CO2
2. atmospheric levels of CO2 have been increasing.
3. global temperatures (on average) have been rising.

The concept is no more difficult or complex than putting on a coat. It is not a scientific theory per se, any more than there is a scientific theory that we exist. It is simply a fact to them.

It is very hard to reason them out of a position that seems so obvious.


40 posted on 01/08/2009 8:50:38 PM PST by LeGrande
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For reference ... .-)


41 posted on 01/08/2009 8:56:14 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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Nice article. We have to just keep punching on this issue daily.

That gas prices dropped so much is really good news. I told a dear friend of mine today who is a pretty connected democrat that his party has two choices:

(1) Pass something purely symbolic on global warming to satisfy the nut jobs; or

(2) Put gas prices to $4.00 and triple folks heating bills with the bill the nut roots want.

In the case of option 2, I told him his party should be prepared for a Republican President and Congress in the first election after gas prices hit $4.00 a gallon during another record, cold winter. They will not be able to blame Bush for the high gas prices. And they can’t control what the weather will do.

I told him I thought his party would choose option one because they want to keep power more than they want to save the Earth.

There was a long silence.


44 posted on 01/08/2009 11:18:47 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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“Volcanoes Cool The Tropics, But Global Warming May Have Helped Override Some Recent Eruptions”

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090105175356.htm

Wonder if this might have an effect on the discrepancy noted by the author between modeled upper atmosphere temps in the tropics and actual observed temps?


45 posted on 01/09/2009 3:16:56 AM PST by saganite
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“Is global warming caused by human activity?”

Is the pope protestant?


47 posted on 01/09/2009 6:51:45 AM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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This exact subject came up in a conference I attended a while back about "climate change" and its impact on infrastructure planning and design.

One of the sessions included a presentation by a climate change "expert" who suggested that one of the impacts of "climate change" that would need to be addressed by government agencies, civil engineers, etc. is the increased frequency and intensity of storms. He made the unfortunate* mistake of using the legendary 1992 nor'easter in the Mid-Atlantic and New England regions as an example of the kind of storms in major population centers that would occur more frequently -- and with more intensity -- in the future.

He pointed out that the 1992 storm was a 50-year event -- i.e., that storms of that intensity and with that kind of destructive capacity typically occur every 50 years in the Northeastern U.S. He then said that a storm of this magnitude would likely occur more frequently as greenhouse gases build up in the atmosphere and climate change continues.

* I use the term "unfortunate" here because he happened to select -- through sheer coincidence -- a storm that I was very familiar with. During the question/answer session I pointed out to him that the 1992 storm was an event of historic proportions in coastal areas for a number of reasons:

1. The conditions associated with what would otherwise have been a "normal" major storm in the Northeast were worsened by the fact that the peak storm surge occurred during high tide.

2. The storm occurred during a period of the month when tides were unusually high -- because the moon was in its full phase just as the storm hit.

3. The high tides in the second week of December 1992 were extraordinarily high even for "full moon" high tides -- because there was a total lunar eclipse during the full moon phase in December 1992 (i.e., the gravitational forces on the earth that cause tides were at their peak because the sun and moon were exactly opposite each other relative to the earth).

I gently suggested to this "expert" that he might want to extend his research into other areas that he hadn't previously considered -- unless he wanted to be on the record as suggesting that "climate change" is also going to cause high tides to occur at more frequent intervals, the changes in lunar cycles to accelerate, and total eclipses of the moon to occur more frequently.

48 posted on 01/09/2009 8:04:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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49 posted on 01/09/2009 9:51:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009___________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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53 posted on 04/10/2009 7:58:07 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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