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Conservatives Are Being Educated Out Of Existence
Chattanoogan.com, Chattanooga, Tenn. ^ | 2009-01-03 | Tim Price

Posted on 01/04/2009 12:27:20 AM PST by rabscuttle385

Republicans and conservatives are in jeopardy of being "educated" out of existence. That begs the question, why in a county that is over 60% Republican and conservative, do we allow our local school system to be run by liberals? Yes, while conservatives have slept, the local school systems across the country, including ours, have been completely taken over by liberals.

It is not only the liberals alone that have made this possible. It is also RINO (Republicans in name only) that have supported these liberal policies and made it possible for them to dominate the school system. Locally RINO's like Chip Baker, Richard Casavant, Joe Conner, Claude Ramsey, etc. are prime examples of politicians that have posed as Republicans basically to get elected while supporting liberal school policies and tax increases. They have been given their marching orders by the local liberal power-structure. They always support the HCEA, NEA, and whatever "…EA" that they can. What organizations can you name that are more liberal than those? Not many.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: conservatism; education; learning; leftismoncampus; liberals; moralabsolutes; nea; publicschools; rino; rinos; schools; teaching
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Indeed. McCain has enough bad traits in reality. We shouldn’t make stuff up about him.


21 posted on 01/04/2009 2:12:32 AM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: Crimson Elephant
Apparently grassroots conservatives/christians/non-liberals aren't as likely to 'go into education' as are liberals.

Or

Once in education, the average joe ends up a liberal due to the influences of teacher unions and the propaganda of the 'educationist' agenda which has be come institutionalized in schools of Education.

22 posted on 01/04/2009 2:15:33 AM PST by x_plus_one (Muhammed and Allah = 2 memes destined for the ashheap of history.....)
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To: Txngal

Internet posters have always been much better at pointing out problems than coming up with solutions. :-)

My solutions, in a nutshell? Abolish the federal Department of Education. Phase out public schools and replace them with private schools. Control the remaining public schools at the state or local levels, rather than at the federal. Drill it into everyone’s mind that private schools are “the norm.” Get people to think of Big Government as a creator of problems, rather than a solver of them.


23 posted on 01/04/2009 2:17:33 AM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: rabscuttle385

You are right — the schools have been taken over by liberals and feminists. Rush Limbaugh has hammered on this point many times. But as you suggest,the real failure is conservatives. They don’t stand tall and fight. Underlying this issue is the fact that liberals work in government(taxpayer-funded jobs)whereas conservatives tend to work for themselves or for someone else in a private enterprise. Ask yourself, “which person has more time to push their agenda?” The liberals do and over time, via their unions, etc, they have changed the laws relating to education. This is not the country of our fathers, but the world of Orwell’s “Animal Farm”, and we are the worse for it. The election of a constitutionally unqualified candidate for President is proof of that.


24 posted on 01/04/2009 2:22:17 AM PST by Sipicaknobius (sipicaknobius)
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To: rabscuttle385

Nobody can hope to prevail in any sort of a culture war while sending their children off to the enemy for indoctrination.


25 posted on 01/04/2009 2:35:08 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: rabscuttle385
The Liberal effect in school was bad enough when I was a kid. I was opposed to the Vietnam war and sympathetic to Communism until I read Ayn Rand and the history of Russian Communism.

It's way worse now and I don't know how many people will fist fight with a gang as I had done because they were annoyed with my non Liberal opinions.

26 posted on 01/04/2009 3:14:22 AM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Chgogal
Because we conservatives in general are gutless sheepeople. Why else would we pay thousands of dollars to left wing profs to teach our children?

You are right.

I wonder how many FReepers who love to bloviate and decry the problem have actually taken the time, effort, and money to go to schools and volunteer, substitute teach, or provide materials for the teachers to use.

Leftist groups do these things. For example, by providing free posters of animals, Greenpeace and similar groups lay the groundwork for their message without providing overtly partisan materials. But conservatives sit in thinik tanks publishing another white paper on how bad things are.

I have gotten emergency certification to substitute teach, and I have seen how bad it is. I saw lesson plans where the negative effects of price controls were excised, not to be taught (I finished the lesson I was assigned--and then ran a price-control roleplaying exercise >}:-)

I have volunteered, going to various schools around the state.

I have provided materials--subversive, non-partisan things like posters of the Founding Fathers.

I ran a news journal that constrasted reality with what a college newspaper ran.

I encourage my fellow FReepers to do similar tasks, if they truly love the Republic. If they just want to whine and complain, then I wish they wouldn't pretend to care.

27 posted on 01/04/2009 3:27:20 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Crimson Elephant

“I have come to realize this is the biggest failure of the conservative movement of the last 30 years...allowing the liberals to dominate education EVEN IN CONSERVATIVE STATES.”

Agreed.


28 posted on 01/04/2009 3:44:52 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: WildcatClan

“We need Conservatives and we need fighters. If we don’t get a lot more Duncan Hunters and far fewer McCain’s elected in 2010, the demographics will have changed in such a way that 2012 won’t matter.”

So very true. And we ignore it at our peril.


29 posted on 01/04/2009 3:46:39 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Fichori

“I’ve never been enrolled in public school and I do know what communism/socialism/Marxism is. (Its how you destroy a country).”

I didn’t go to a public school until I was in college in the late 1960s. There is a wide gulf between private (I went to Catholic schools) and public schools in how education is presented.


30 posted on 01/04/2009 3:50:10 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: JillValentine

“Get people to think of Big Government as a creator of problems, rather than a solver of them.”

That’s it in a nutshell. We have our work cut out for us. Unfortunately, it may take a revolution (and I mean that in the strictest sense of the word) to bring about the necessary change. America has turned its back on God. I hope and pray God does not turn His back on America.


31 posted on 01/04/2009 3:52:47 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: wendy1946

“Nobody can hope to prevail in any sort of a culture war while sending their children off to the enemy for indoctrination.”

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner! No truer words have ever been spoken.


32 posted on 01/04/2009 3:54:05 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: rabscuttle385

This problem could be solved with one simple change:

(a change which is opposed even by conservative teachers)

ELIMINATE TENURE.

It’s that simple.


33 posted on 01/04/2009 3:58:02 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Free Trade" = Fire Americans. Buy another company then fire more Americans.)
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To: Gondring

I am in my late 50s, a college graduate, a Vietnam vet, and I may very well be getting laid off from my job this year. How does one go about getting certified as an “emergency teacher”? Does one have to go back to school to a get an Education degree?


34 posted on 01/04/2009 3:58:43 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: rabscuttle385; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

35 posted on 01/04/2009 4:08:12 AM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: Chgogal

I think it must be that we are fearful that our children won’t be able to make any money. The liberals have it all!! But as for gutless, I have wondered why conservatives WON’T use the court system and make it work for them, while the liberals use it constantly, even filing “lawsuits” that are basically settlement agreements to get what they want from government.


36 posted on 01/04/2009 4:13:22 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: ought-six

But you won’t get ANY HELP from the Republican Party!!! Look what they did to Palin. Look how the only candidate it could come up with was John McCain. Our PARTY is the problem—it supports big government done ITS way versus the Dem way and that’s it (No Big Difference). I”ll never forget the Clinton Health Plan— and how Bob Dole agreed to help get it passed!! DUH!!! The 1994 Pubbies said they would ABOLISH the Dept of Education and by 2000 we have BUSH-KENNEDY making it bigger, more swollen, and more disgusting than EVER!!!!


37 posted on 01/04/2009 4:22:04 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: Wilhelm Tell

As the old saying goes: “Them what can’t do, teach. Them what can’t teach, teach teaching.


38 posted on 01/04/2009 4:26:16 AM PST by oualdeaux
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To: rabscuttle385

“That begs the question, why in a county that is over 60% Republican and conservative”

This implies the country is still center-right in orientation. I don’t think that’s the case anymore at all. Were it the case, Obama wouldn’t have had a chance in November.


39 posted on 01/04/2009 4:31:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (All I needed to know about islam I learned on 9-11.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I asked if anyone had heard him mention vouchers this election. I never said he did not. I never heard him and I was paying attention. Clearly he did not get his message out to this voter.

Many of the hits have to do with a speech he gave to the NAACP, of which I am not a member, and statements of his position. Apparently he chided Obama early in the campaign for not being for vouchers and I missed that. Perhaps I am able to filter dishonesty subconsciously and never realized it. :)

“Mr. McCain downplayed his own support for vouchers. The only voucher proposal in his education plan was a declaration of support for the voucher program in Washington, D.C. Instead, Mr. McCain’s plan focused on politically safer options, such as charter schools and bonus pay for teachers.”
http://www.nysun.com/national/mccains-education-plan-includes-a-policy-departure/82100/


40 posted on 01/04/2009 4:31:37 AM PST by WildcatClan (AND THOSE DOESNT BRAIN JUST GO. ---- Cecile Noe)
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