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A long, but thoughtful essay by one of our last critics with any claim to moral seriousness.
1 posted on 12/27/2008 12:54:23 PM PST by mojito
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Kimball's The Rape of the Masters: How Political Correctness Sabotages Art is one of the funniest books I've ever read.

ML/NJ

2 posted on 12/27/2008 1:00:51 PM PST by ml/nj
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3 posted on 12/27/2008 1:02:17 PM PST by martin_fierro (Happy Little Screams)
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working through it.

thx.

4 posted on 12/27/2008 1:04:03 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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From 45 Communist Goals:

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

6 posted on 12/27/2008 1:05:32 PM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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Depends on what is considered beauty.

Most minimalist art I consider absolutely worthless. But then there is the one that is just a simple curved black line, but you recognize that this is the minimum necessary to evoke the shape, and thought, of a woman. Just a simple black line, but beautiful in its way. Similarly, I have seen one that is just some smudges, but it is recognizable as the minimum form necessary to describe a sea shore.

I used to consider Jackson Pollock's work absolutely worthless and paid little attention to them at all. But, later studies have posited that they have a fractal nature not found in attempted duplications. I haven't really made a decision about what I think of Pollock, but it made me at least take a look and see if there is any there there.
7 posted on 12/27/2008 1:06:05 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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Fascinating article, indeed for an atheist like me, art is the closest thing to a religious experience. The fact that art exists is to me the strongest argument for the existence of God.

Beautiful art still exists, at least in cinema. The Kubricks, Kurosawas, Bergmans, and Tarkovskys of the world will continue to carry the fire.


13 posted on 12/27/2008 1:14:33 PM PST by zarodinu
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Not me, I don’t care about art at all. I don’t buy art and I don’t sell art. The artists can all starve, I don’t give a fig.

OTH, I do spend money on superbly crafted items of great beauty. I care about fine craftmenship quite a bit.


21 posted on 12/27/2008 1:27:57 PM PST by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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“...Deconstruction throws all objective meaning into question, so no one has to have the disappointing experience of being wrong or denied tenure, no matter how stupid one’s ideas. The burden of personal responsibility is mitigated, because one’s being is determined by accidental factors such as race, class and gender, not one’s owns values, decisions and actions. Skillful knowledge acquired by intense effort (or just being born smarter) is replaced by an obnoxious, hypertrophied adolescent scepticism that knows only how to question but not to learn.

It is grounded in a sort of bovine materialism that is not the realm of answers, but the graveyard of meaningful questions.

The primitive is idealized, because it is within everyone’s reach—I remember Rudy Giuliani’s comment about an artist’s rendering of the Virgin Mary with elephant dung: “If I can do it, it isn’t art.”

Of course, Giuliani was pilloried by the sophisticated N.Y art crowd, and with good reason. It is painful to have standards, because not everyone can attain them. ...” ~ Gagdad Bob (Robert Godwin, PhD)

Never Make a God of Your Irreligion
http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/2005/10/never-make-god-of-your-irreligion.html


23 posted on 12/27/2008 1:28:18 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Every free act transcends matter, which is why any form of materialism is anti-liberty" - Gagdad)
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Bookmark


27 posted on 12/27/2008 1:33:17 PM PST by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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what about all that beauty on the inside stuff?

30 posted on 12/27/2008 1:38:39 PM PST by woofie
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Don’t have time to read the article now. What happened to art, did morons committed mass murder on it and laughed?


32 posted on 12/27/2008 1:43:34 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Many come here to merely strike poses, posture and feel superior to others.)
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Once in a while real miracles happen. Mark Bangerter overcame a serious hate crime where he was left for dead along side the road.

He has now found his vision and will open on January 17 with a fabulous new show.

His Story

34 posted on 12/27/2008 1:46:19 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah, where we got two feet of "Global Warming" goresnow)
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Hilton Kramer and Roger Kimball have both been invaluable critics of the decay of art in the postmodern world.

This is a thoughtful essay. I think a bit more could have been made of the Platonic/Aristotelian trio of trancendentals: truth, beauty, goodness. Perhaps Kimball just assumes that everyone knows about that, but I’m afraid most people no longer do.

That, for a Christian, is where art ties into religion, because religion is all about what is real, true, good, beautiful. When you trade in the real for the material is where you run into trouble. Or, what I think he’s referring to when he says that the problems began back in the middle ages, when you trade in Aristotelian universalism for Ockham’s nominalism, that’s also where you run into trouble.

I had several opportunities to meet with Kramer and Kimball, and in their early years after founding their new magazine they thought very highly of high modernist art but hated pop art and postmodernist art. Perhaps Kimball is reconsidering that, too, in this essay, although he doesn’t quite say so.


35 posted on 12/27/2008 1:47:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Once in a while real miracles happen. Mark Bangerter overcame a serious hate crime where he was left for dead along side the road.

He has now found his vision and will open on January 17 with a fabulous new show.

His Story

37 posted on 12/27/2008 1:49:07 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah, where we got two feet of "Global Warming" goresnow)
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GOYA

42 posted on 12/27/2008 1:54:26 PM PST by woofie
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bump for later


51 posted on 12/27/2008 2:09:28 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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Thanks so much for posting.


54 posted on 12/27/2008 2:16:06 PM PST by GOP Poet
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www.artrenewal.com

‘Nuff said!


63 posted on 12/27/2008 2:48:16 PM PST by chesley (A pox on both their houses. I've voted for my last RINO.)
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64 posted on 12/27/2008 2:50:17 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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Most art (and most architecture) these days is a monument to the artist’s ego. Nothing else.


66 posted on 12/27/2008 3:29:57 PM PST by Lorianne
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