Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ban on gay marriage won't be forever
Dayton Daily News ^ | December 27, 2008 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 12/27/2008 6:14:01 AM PST by IbJensen

The cause of gay rights has made enormous progress in the last couple of decades, but the more specific cause of gay marriage continues to be battered.

In the same election that voters helped bridge the United States' racial divide by electing the country's first African-American president, voters in California overrode a ruling of that state's Supreme Court and effectively rebanned gay marriage.

Reliably Democratic-voting California — home to those much-mocked "San Francisco values" that tolerate gay lifestyles — has now joined 29 other states, including Ohio, banning gay marriage.

Protests in reaction to the vote popped up across the country, including in Dayton. And recently some activists encouraged people to use a sick day, or to "call in gay," as a national demonstration of the broad economic impact of gays.

The backlash against California's Proposition 8 also could seed expansion of a mostly symbolic effort by cities, including in Ohio, to support their gay communities. Cleveland City Council, for example, last month took a stand in support of its gay community by creating a domestic partner registry.

Such registries date to the 1980s in northern California. The idea is to recognize committed relationships formally, and, in so doing, encourage employers and others to extend to gay couples benefits typically offered to married heterosexual couples. Nobody is required to recognize gay couples. But for businesses or organizations that want to be gay-friendly, the registry gives gays official documentation of their relationships.

Of course, the registry does not substitute for marriage. It is merely a public record of partnerships. But the record can allow, for instance, a hospital to verify a gay partner for visitation or organ donation authorization, provided the hospital wishes to do so.

Three Ohio cities have now taken this step: The others are Toledo and Cleveland Heights. Dayton leaders say the issue is "not on our radar right now," according to spokesman Tom Biedenharn.

Gay rights has been a political hot potato in the region's central city since 1999 when then-City Commissioner Mary Wiseman, who is gay and just this year was elected to the Montgomery County Common Pleas Court, proposed a sensible extension of the city's nondiscrimination ordinance to gays. That touched off a firestorm of protests from the religious community and then-Mayor Mike Turner, who rallied support to defeat the measure.

Last year — not quite a decade later — the city commission on a 3-1 vote adopted Ms. Wiseman's proposal, notwithstanding the continued community protests. (Commissioner Joey Williams didn't vote, and Commissioner Dean Lovelace was the "no" vote.)

For now, Mr. Biedenharn said, the commission thinks it has shown its support for the gay community.

"I think symbolically it sets where we are with this," he said. "We are open, amenable and respectful of everybody's rights."

Gay marriage votes notwithstanding, the ground is shifting in favor of gay rights. Young people especially don't get why there should be any fuss about sexual orientation. Businesses are increasingly sensitive to their gay employees because, for them, the issue is workers' skills, not lifestyles. Many Republican politicians see a need for their party to separate itself from anti-gay causes.

Ohio's gay marriage ban probably won't be undone anytime soon. But the fact that it's in the constitution doesn't mean it's in concrete.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: california; daytondailynews; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; liberalism; moralabsolutes; moralrelativism; ohio; queerlybeloved; samesexmarriage; socialconservatism; timelesstruths; traditionalmarriage; traditionalvalues
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-53 next last
Why news media and Democrats continue to chew on this perverted 'bone' shouldn't escape anyone. On the surface it looks stupid, but these bozos are joined at the hip with perversion.

They'll never editorialize about how the vast majority of serial killers were homosexuals and that getting their 'gay' backsides into elementary schools for demonstration programs is inherently evil.

The Democrat Party and their pals in the media have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with satan and hell.

1 posted on 12/27/2008 6:14:01 AM PST by IbJensen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

I wish we could get 38 states to make it permanent in our Constitution.


2 posted on 12/27/2008 6:20:18 AM PST by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

“But the fact that it’s in the constitution doesn’t mean it’s in concrete.”

This statement makes them dangerous.


3 posted on 12/27/2008 6:20:26 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xcamel

Oh, they’re dangerous alright. To these rats the Constitution is like Play-Doh.


4 posted on 12/27/2008 6:21:29 AM PST by IbJensen (MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Next year: famine and communism!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen
"Young people especially don't get why there should be any fuss about sexual orientation."

That's because they've been brainwashed into believing such nonsense.

5 posted on 12/27/2008 6:25:34 AM PST by Pietro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen
They repeatedly talk about "gay rights".

What, exactly do they mean by that?

Are these some special rights that ONLY GAYS have?

Just asking.

I thought the Constitution covered us all....equally.

6 posted on 12/27/2008 6:31:35 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen
Proposition 8 does NOT single out gays.

If I wanted to marry another guy, I couldn't either and I'm not gay.

It applies equally to everybody.

7 posted on 12/27/2008 6:38:44 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Always Right

In order to get a ban on same-sex marriage enshrined in the US Constitution, we’d have to let the libs enshrine FOCA in the Constitution also. A lot of folks on our side would rather die than let that happen. So we are at a logjam.


8 posted on 12/27/2008 6:39:59 AM PST by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

“They have made enormous PROGRESS”.

That statement only works if you can accept teaching their perverted and destructive Lifestyle in our “Public Schools”.

How many have died from Aids, since it was discovered.


9 posted on 12/27/2008 6:42:17 AM PST by chatham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

They might be able to change the laws, and maybe even the constitution, but they’ll have a lot harder time changing the Bible! From Genesis right through the New Testament it’s very clear that marriage is between one man and one woman.


10 posted on 12/27/2008 6:45:26 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: capt. norm
If I wanted to marry another guy, I couldn't either and I'm not gay

Good point

11 posted on 12/27/2008 6:46:02 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: jwparkerjr
...they’ll have a lot harder time changing the Bible!

These communist-fascists will declare the Holy Bible a subversive document and their storm troopers will burn them.

Catcher In The Rye, Fear of Flying, etc. etc. will be safe, however.

12 posted on 12/27/2008 6:49:10 AM PST by IbJensen (MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Next year: famine and communism!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: capt. norm

Wait until a test case pops up wherein a man wants to marry his female horse.

Men marrying male horses will be covered, of course, by the homosexual marriage law that will be 'edicted' nationwide. (This will be after all 50 states are dissolved and replaced by 5 regions each ruled by a gauleiter.)

There will be a lot of committee work involved in cobbling (they call it 'crafting') together a bill to allow siblings to wed and fathers to wed daughters, sons, pigs, cows, et al.

13 posted on 12/27/2008 6:54:29 AM PST by IbJensen (MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Next year: famine and communism!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

You need only observe “journalism” students in college to see just how degraded most of them are. Drunks and druggies. Is there any bigger bunch of lushes? Is there an easier degree program? It explains totally their job performances as big govt, pervert loving, commie stooges.


14 posted on 12/27/2008 6:56:13 AM PST by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xcamel
“But the fact that it’s in the constitution doesn’t mean it’s in concrete.”

Any provision that's put in by amendment can be altered or removed by amendment. Which is perfectly legitimate.

Unfortunately, that's probably not what he means.

15 posted on 12/27/2008 6:56:40 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

I live in Dayton and HATE the Dayton Daily News. I would never get a print subscription.


16 posted on 12/27/2008 6:59:37 AM PST by arjay (I would rather be right than consistent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: capt. norm
No. 'Gay' Rights are altogether different from the rights regular heterosexual citizens enjoy.

Under the new 'Leader' if a homosexual strolling down the boulevard sees a young man he fancies he will legally be able to claim the young man if another homosexual, or a homosexual higher up in rank in the Democrat Party, doesn't claim the youth.

Homosexuals will have the right to claim a heterosexual's residence and pay whatever the Party deems a fair price.

Under a bi-sexual reign homosexuals will be at the top of the 'pecking order.'

Anyone making any disparaging remarks about homosexual, transgendered, bi-sexual persons will be sentenced by a tribunal to immediate death.

17 posted on 12/27/2008 7:01:00 AM PST by IbJensen (MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Next year: famine and communism!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: arjay
Well, fortunately, I don't live in Dayton.

I did once upon a time, but refused to subscribe to the Dayton Daily Worker.

After moving south I refused to subscribe to the local Gannett rag.

I prefer to wait by the sidelines and watch the lousy, socialist media die.

18 posted on 12/27/2008 7:02:43 AM PST by IbJensen (MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Next year: famine and communism!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Seruzawa
I remember in the golden days of my youth when journalism was a respected course of study and respected employment.

There are a very few newspapers and magazines that espouse true conservative opinions.

The Philadelphia Bulletin, The Investors Business Daily and the American Rifleman!

Give me a few weeks and I'll come up with some others.

19 posted on 12/27/2008 7:05:23 AM PST by IbJensen (MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Next year: famine and communism!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen
You say all this and it sounds outrageous and lame-brained ... now.
20 posted on 12/27/2008 7:08:54 AM PST by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-53 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson