Posted on 12/24/2008 7:19:49 AM PST by XR7
The collapse of the U.S. auto industry would be easier to take if the cars were junk.
Thats how it was the last time one of the Big Three (Chrysler) went belly up back in 1979. If youre old enough to remember the Cordoba, you know what Im talking about. It was easy to comprehend the failure of late 70s-era Chrysler because Chryslers cars of that period were junk. People tend not to buy junk end of story. Simple relationship. Cause and effect.
But today?
Never have the products of the Big Three especially GM and Ford been as good as they are right now. The incidence of problems, recalls, etc. is actually lower for some American-brand cars than for Toyota and Honda. By any objective measure, parity, at the very least, has been achieved. The cars are damn good. But theyre not selling.
How do you fix a problem like that?
The cruel answer is, its not up to GM or Ford anymore. They have done almost everything they can, on the product side. Whats coming home to roost is a deadly trifecta of lingering buyer suspicion of American-brand cars combined with soaring gas prices and an economy in free fall.
You can fault the American car companies for the first item the unpleasant legacy of Pintos past, so to speak but the other two are completely beyond their control.
Some fault GM, Ford and Chrysler for building too many big trucks and SUVs. But that is what the market wanted until quite recently. The car industry does not turn on a dime. It is not like making a candy bar or a plastic bucket. Millions of dollars and several years (24-36 months is typical) are needed to design a brand-new, wheels-up new car model and bring it from design sketch to production. The surge in gas prices came upon us and the auto industry suddenly.
Those who fault GM, Ford and Chrysler for not anticipating the uptick forget that every single major Japanese automaker was feverishly working on gigantosaurs of their own circa 2000-2004 from the aptly named Nissan Titan to the monstrous Toyota Tundra. But they got to the party late and their exposure was minimal as the feces began to hit the fan. It was relatively painless to throttle back (Nissan and Toyota may actually cancel their big trucks) and re-focus on what they have historically always done best passenger cars.
But the backdrop issue is the collapse of the consumerist economy. Whats forgotten amid all the hair-pulling and gnashing of teeth is the simple fact that people, in the main, were only able to buy cars irrespective of who made them, whether Americans or Japanese or Germans by signing up for a big fat loan on the easy monthly payment plan.
Often, few, if any, questions were asked.
Credit and loans made it possible for even average middle income people to drive home in $45,000 vehicles (SUVs and cars). Now that credit has dried up, the partys over. No ones buying anything because no one can afford to buy a damn thing. Gas mileage is a bogey. The truth is most of todays middle-large sedans dont deliver much better fuel economy than trucks and SUVs. About 5-8 mpgs or so better. Big whoop. If the car in question has a V-8, there is virtually no difference. Minivans are obnoxious pigs with typical city mileage in the mid-high teens, as bad or worse than a new Escalade.
No, the problem is were tapped out. We cant afford gas because we cant afford anything. That includes cars.
Which is why the cars arent selling. Which is why the $25 billion bailout wont do much except temporarily preserve the jobs of those unlucky souls working directly or indirectly for the industry.
Until the broad masses are once again in a position to buy expensive consumer goods such as automobiles, no amount of bailout boodle is going to solve the problem. Trillions in hopelessly unrecoverable debt is going to have to pass through the economys colon first. Then, incomes and income stability will have to rise, so that people not only have disposable income once more but feel reasonably secure in their jobs so that theyre willing to sign up for a big hunk of debt.
Do any of you see this happening in the near-term future? Me either.
So, were left with the cruel irony of an industry that has never built better products that is on life support and not likely to recover.
Because for it to recover, weve got to recover first.
And no ones offering us a bailout.
Yes, the article notes:
“The incidence of problems, recalls, etc. is actually lower for some American-brand cars than for Toyota and Honda.”
But that’s comparing certain Big Three vehicle models against the corporate average for Toyota or Honda (Nissan is, sad to say as someone who likes Nissan, not so good). However, I think we can fairly compare Cadillac or Lincoln to Lexus or Acura - A Cadillac is just a Chevy, really, but by the same token a Lexus is really just a Toyota - and they come out pretty well there.
I personally generally prefer the interior fit and finish, and driving characteristics, of Japanese cars, but I think it’s fair to say that at least some vehicle models from the big 3 are as good as, or even better than, their Japanese competition. And some of the models produced by the much-respected Toyota and Honda are pretty miserable. I must admit that I really didn’t give the domestics fair consideration the last time I was car shopping. I mean sure, they built a lot of crap for years, but not so many years ago Hyundais were a joke, and today they build a pretty decent car.
I don't even remember what we did with that car but it was awful. Blowing it up would have been a good thing.
“Design and feel drive the emotional part of the purchase decision and domestics are seriously outclassed.”
I would tend to agree, as far as interior design, materials, and fit and finish are concerned, but IMO the big 3 have some models with much more interesting exterior styling. Chrysler may actually be the leader in that area, but they have some of the weakest interiors.
You do know that the 300’s and the Pacifica (and the Crossfire) are built by M.B. ?
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No, only the Crossfire...which was designed by Chrysler.
... the Chrysler Pacifica was developed in 30 months at a cost below $1 billion. Production began in early 2003 at the Windsor, Ontario Assembly Plant. While it is built in the same plant as Chrysler and Dodge minivans, there are several differences aside from sheet metal to accommodate a different engine, the fold-flat seats, and the additional options.
One big problem is with cars being so well made, we don’t need to keep buying new ones.
Thanks for providing a correction to my comment.
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