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'WE'VE LOST EVERYTHING' - RUINED RETIREE'S TALE
NY POST ^ | 12/16/2008 | By BETTE GREENFIELD

Posted on 12/16/2008 7:17:43 AM PST by Red Badger

A lifelong New Jersey resident, Bette Greenfield (left) retired in March and moved to Florida in July.

I'm not from a wealthy family living on a big estate in Palm Beach or in an Upper East Side apartment. I'm 71. I've worked hard and lived a quiet life - and have just lost my retire ment savings in the blink of an eye, thanks to Bernie Madoff.

When my brother told me the news, I said, "I guess I'm going to have to live in a refrigerator box now."

I made jokes because it was the only thing I could do to not burst into tears.

How did this happen?

My father, a CPA, was smart and an extremely knowledgeable financial ad viser. As he aged, he wanted to have something where he could put his savings and live off the interest.

He was told by one of his wealthy Palm Beach friends that Bernie Madoff was a miracle worker with invest ments, and that he could pull strings to get Dad into a trust fund with Madoff Securities.

It was less than $400,000 - not a large amount by Madoff standards - but his friend helped him get into a fund. Dad was sure that he had made a wise investment and that he and his wife could be comfortable for the rest of their lives.

For 10 years, he did live off the interest and totally believed in the way the money was increasing.

Dad told me, "Bernie Madoff is brilliant. When I pass away, keep the money with him, and you and your brothers will always have something to fall back on."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: clowardpiven; gramsci; madoff
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To: dfwgator
Agreed!

When it comes to money...never trust, always verify, always diversify!

81 posted on 12/16/2008 8:08:59 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: marktwain
So, they lost the inheritance, after their father was in on the Ponzi scheme early. He took out of it for over 10 years, they took out of it for 5 years. Now they are complaining about it!

This is a bit like the Mexican complaints after they nationalized the d'Anconia copper mines and the Taggert San Sabastian railroad line.

ML/NJ

82 posted on 12/16/2008 8:09:14 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: AndyJackson

I dont know. It’s stunning.


83 posted on 12/16/2008 8:09:17 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mgc1122

The returns were very good, but still modest. The unbelievable part was how steady they were. I would hardly call it greed.


84 posted on 12/16/2008 8:09:24 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: gieriscm

Don’t forget, they also paid income taxes on the phoney profits..


85 posted on 12/16/2008 8:10:14 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Captain Peter Blood

If these investors hadn’t been Democrats - and therefore my tormentors who force all sorts of limitations on my freedoms and raise my taxes - I would muster up some compassion. Instead,...

Ho ho ho ho ho ho, suckers.


86 posted on 12/16/2008 8:10:19 AM PST by qwertypie
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To: dfwgator

Agreed - shoot the b@stards from BofA, Wachovia, WaMu, AIG, and others too. These corrupt fat cats are but domestic terrorists.


87 posted on 12/16/2008 8:10:49 AM PST by indcons (An eye for an eye; a tooth for a tooth.)
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To: indcons

The cause of all of our economic problems can be summed up in one word, “Fraud.”

If you don’t have trust in markets, you don’t have an economy.


88 posted on 12/16/2008 8:12:09 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Red Badger

Money isn’t free, even investment monies. Work is required of money. One must work to ensure it is not stolen and is invested wisely or kept safe. Having money means having responsibilities for that money. People who give their money to someone else “to take care of me” are just asking to lose their money. It takes responsibility to earn money, but it takes even more responsibility to keep it.

It seems from the CEOs on down the food chain people think their job is always someone else’s job. No one seems to want to exercise their authority and take responsibility for their actions...even of their very own money.


89 posted on 12/16/2008 8:13:43 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Moonman62

Greed is a part of it, but I think stupid is a better word. You can’t read a decent financial publication for more than 10 minutes without stumbling into a discussion of diversification. Why people put their entire nest egg into a hedge fund is beyond me.

Why didn’t these idiots just put at least part of their money in Treasuries? Because they wanted a better return on their money.


90 posted on 12/16/2008 8:13:45 AM PST by Looper
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To: mgc1122
Let’s not overlook GREED in that equation ...

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Exactly what have you done with your money to make it grow, bury it in the backyard?

91 posted on 12/16/2008 8:14:32 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: indcons

For weeks after WaMu was bankrupt they continued to spend tons of money on ads 24/7 on national radio and TV declaring W00H00!

To me it was just like watching money burning! L0L


92 posted on 12/16/2008 8:14:59 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; Las Vegas Ron
Cannot believe what financial idiots are on FR. Not only idiots but full of jealousy, envy, backbiting, class envy etc. These people (and this woman in the article) are victims of a horrible and very deceptive crime. The folks here on FR sound like a bunch of rapid dogs chewing at the heals of someone who has suffered a fall and is wounded in the streets. They feel justified because they are financial “have nots” and cannot with their small minds imagine how someone could possibly have any money to invest since they and their circle don't have squat. They attack the IQ of investors who have lost as if their are no shysters, swindlers and snake oil salesman on the planet any more. They attack because it was money that she did not personally earn but instead a parent. These freeper dogs and their frothing with envy at the mouth are playing right into the hands of the commies. Commies drooling at the sight of the people all chewing at each other when the stuff hits the fan. Divide and conquer.
93 posted on 12/16/2008 8:15:02 AM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Looper

Part of it is the government’s fault for not creating an environment where there are better returns.


94 posted on 12/16/2008 8:15:40 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: mylife
Had the Gubmint not bailed out AIG the bottom would have fallen out of the bond market too.

I don't think so. If "mommy govt" had insured the performance of the underlying mortgages (insured them) and then declared a force majere for all the CDS requiring the monies to be returned and an open regulated mkt created for them we would be in better shape. The problem from their perspective was most of their friends and financial institutions they came from would have suffered.

It's much easier to place the burden on that unknown person, the tax payer.

Our problem now is going to be chronic.

95 posted on 12/16/2008 8:15:43 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support Senateconservatives.com)
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To: CodeToad
People who give their money to someone else “to take care of me” are just asking to lose their money. It takes responsibility to earn money, but it takes even more responsibility to keep it.

I think Billy Joel would agree with you.............

96 posted on 12/16/2008 8:16:01 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Red Badger

I feel for these people. He was a dim, doing it to his fellow dims to be the big guy on the block. I guess this will be the next bail out. The Madoff Bailout Bill coming shortly.


97 posted on 12/16/2008 8:16:34 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Great patriotic stuff at www.patriotstore.us.)
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To: mgc1122

Greed maybe, but I remember being told about eggs and a basket or something like that. /s


98 posted on 12/16/2008 8:17:21 AM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: qwertypie

Granted that there are those I may not feel sorry for.
Having said that though the small investors that got wiped out I do feel sorry for.


99 posted on 12/16/2008 8:18:12 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Red Badger

[For 10 years, he did live off the interest and totally believed in the way the money was increasing. ]

Ten years at better than 10% means he basically ripped someone else off and is now crying about it.


100 posted on 12/16/2008 8:18:13 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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