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It's Time to Junk the Electoral College [Soros alert] [massive barf]
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2008-12-15 | Jonathan Soros

Posted on 12/14/2008 6:55:56 PM PST by rabscuttle385

In his election-night victory speech, Barack Obama said he would be a president for all Americans, not just those who voted for him. But as a candidate he didn't campaign with equal vigor for every vote. Instead, he and John McCain devoted more than 98% of their television ad spending and campaign events to just 15 states which together make up about a third of the U.S. population. Today, as the Electoral College votes are cast and counted state-by-state, we will be reminded why. It is the peculiar mechanics of that institution, designed for a different age, that leave us divided into red states, blue states and swing states. That needs to change.

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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: constitution; deranged; electoralcollege; globalism; jonathansoros; mobrule; nwo; soros; tryanny
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To: April Lexington

Hmmm.... wonder if Soros is a bit worried about all of these citizenship lawsuits?????
***That’s my take.


21 posted on 12/14/2008 7:33:32 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: MS from the OC

Nonsense. The cities would rule, and we know how cities vote.


22 posted on 12/14/2008 7:33:59 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: MS from the OC
Perhaps this time Soros is right (hey, a broken clock...)

Soros right, Madison wrong. Sure.

Free Republic is unrecognizable.

23 posted on 12/14/2008 7:36:18 PM PST by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: Kevmo
Hmmm.... wonder if Soros is a bit worried about all of these citizenship lawsuits????? ***That’s my take.

Recall that in his 2004 Senate debates with Alan Keyes, Obama (debate no. 3, about 50 minutes in) said he wanted to abolish the Electoral College.

24 posted on 12/14/2008 7:37:59 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Repeal 16-17

Yes, McCain was a bad candidate but none of the Republicans that ran for the nomination in 2008 would have beat Obama.

However, without the EC a decent GOP Candidate could have campaigned in Texas, California and New York and may have been able to cut into the 9,000,000 vote margin that McCain lost to Obama.


25 posted on 12/14/2008 7:39:24 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Chunga

Soros nice try. Our forefounders put that in place to keep the likes of you out of our government. Nice try though. Small minds, small thoughts.


26 posted on 12/14/2008 7:42:57 PM PST by yorkie01
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To: April Lexington

“Hmmm.... wonder if Soros is a bit worried about all of these citizenship lawsuits?????”

I thought the same thing! Or maybe Soros is maybe worried about what all the Electors might do tomorrow! There may be many Electors who take their responsibilities as an Elector very seriously and want to do what they are sworn to do. That is to cast their votes for a constitutionally qualified candidate.


27 posted on 12/14/2008 7:43:00 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Chunga
Soros right, Madison wrong. Sure.

I'm not sure what Soro's is babbling about, interstate "pacts" and such. But if red electoral votes (ie, outside the cities) count as electoral votes instead of the "one winner takes all", it could very well swing elections from the cities, IMHO.

I'm nor saying ditch the Constitution, I'm just asking if better alternatives are available FRiend.

28 posted on 12/14/2008 7:46:19 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: rabscuttle385
It's time to junk Soros.

P8riot

29 posted on 12/14/2008 7:48:08 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: thecodont

Doesn’t surprise me. This is the guy who said, “The constitution is fundamentally flawed.” And he’s proceeded to drive a truck through one of its flaws.


30 posted on 12/14/2008 7:48:18 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: ScreamingFist
Read and learn
31 posted on 12/14/2008 7:49:00 PM PST by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: trumandogz
However, without the EC a decent GOP Candidate could have campaigned in Texas, California and New York and may have been able to cut into the 9,000,000 vote margin that McCain lost to Obama.

First, that is pure speculation. Why would the absence of the Electoral College affect the Republican nomination process or any State's ballot access laws?

Second, to abolish the Electoral College is to destroy the States' role in all future Presidential elections. We don't allows win the Presidency with the Electoral College (that's not its purpose), but we will have almost no chance of so winning without it.

32 posted on 12/14/2008 7:50:32 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Kevmo
Doesn’t surprise me. This is the guy who said, “The constitution is fundamentally flawed.” And he’s proceeded to drive a truck through one of its flaws.

Well, in a way I suppose we can thank this weasel for showcasing where one of the really big holes is.

Time to get out the caulk / oakum / spackling compound.

33 posted on 12/14/2008 7:51:29 PM PST by thecodont
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To: trumandogz

Nope. More small states vote GOP and more large states vote Democrat. In normal years.

The GOP usually has a slight but potentially important built-in electoral college advantage. For example, it made the difference in Bush v. Gore.

With the Electoral College system, the states of Alaska, Wyoming, N and S Dakota and Montana, have a total of 15 votes, more than 2.7% of the total.

With a popular vote, these states would have 1.17% of the vote, considerably less than half of their present influence.

I think the question of whether an interstate compact, as proposed by Mr. Soros, is constitutional is quite open. In any case, such a compact could not be legal unless approved by Congress, and could presumably be invalidated by any future Congress by majority vote.


34 posted on 12/14/2008 7:52:41 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Chunga

Yes I’ve read that before. Thanks anyway.


35 posted on 12/14/2008 7:53:04 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: thecodont

We pay the supreme court to do just that. It’s why they have lifetime appointment, so they don’t have to worry about the political effects of doing their job properly. I do not have confidence that they will do their job. Like Donofrio, I fear the constitutional republic is lost.


36 posted on 12/14/2008 7:56:21 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: ScreamingFist

I’ve thought for a while that to have the EC divided up by districts with the popular vote winner of the state getting the 2 for Senators would make it much more competitive. I know there are a couple states that do it this way.


37 posted on 12/14/2008 7:56:41 PM PST by Kadric
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To: rabscuttle385

The Electoral College is one of many, many safeguards against tyranny contained in the Constitution. Therefore, it is a target of the left.


38 posted on 12/14/2008 7:57:28 PM PST by redpoll
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To: redpoll
The Electoral College is one of many, many safeguards against tyranny contained in the Constitution. Therefore, it is a target of the left.

And a target of Soros.

Obama/Soetoro - the demagogue the Founding Fathers were waiting for.


39 posted on 12/14/2008 8:03:33 PM PST by magooey (Obama/Soetoro - the demagogue the Founding Fathers were waiting for)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Hate to be a Jeremiah,but, the Union will cease to exist by 2050.


40 posted on 12/14/2008 8:03:41 PM PST by pankot
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