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Claims of Obama Proofers Go "Poof"
Pajamas Media ^ | December 12 | Bob Owens

Posted on 12/12/2008 4:50:42 PM PST by AJKauf

Barack Obama never renounced his U.S. citizenship. Also, as he was a minor when he moved to Indonesia, neither he nor his parents could have renounced it. Period. As far as U.S. law is concerned, Barack Obama never lost his U.S. citizenship even as he gained Indonesian citizenship. Indonesia’s laws on the matter simply don’t apply in this country.

And so while multiple lawsuits challenging his eligibility still have appeals left to be exhausted, the simple fact of the matter is that there is no credible evidence that Barack Obama is anything other than a U.S. citizen “natural born” in a Hawaiian hospital in 1961. As a result, none of the cases submitted to the U.S. Supreme Court is likely to be heard.

But will the quashing of the various legal challenges be enough to satisfy those that have bought into these unsupported theories?

If past conspiracy theories can be a guide, then “no.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 1600penn; 911truthers; artbell; certifigate; conspiracyrules; crackerheads; csection; pissonthefifth; rubberroom
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To: Gemsbok
Where are they?

I was in Hawaii in '66, '68 and '70.

I didn't see him.

And I would have been looking, too.

But, sarcasm and cynicism aside, I must say that there are many, many mixed races in Hawaii, then and now, and I really don't think that he would, as a child, have stood out.

I'm not defending the POS, as I think he is the worst thing that could happen to the US, but I do have to apply logic and common sense to the situation.

A presentation of his Birth Certificate would solve the whole mess, what?

61 posted on 12/12/2008 5:53:21 PM PST by OldSmaj (Death to islam. No to Hussein. BO stinks.)
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To: AJKauf

MISSING-HIDDEN DOCUMENTS:

Original, vault copy of Certificate of Live Birth in the USA — Not Released (1 version hidden in Hawaii, Original found in Kenya)

Certificate of Live Birth — Released - Proven Counterfeit (www.ObamaFiles.com)

Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released

Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released

Soetoro adoption records — Not released

Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Not Released 

Punahou School records — Not released

Selective Service Registration — Released - Proven Counterfeit 

Occidental College records — Not released

Passport (Pakistan) — Not released

Columbia College records — Not released

Columbia thesis — Not released

Harvard College records — Not released

Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, Not Signed)

Baptism certificate — None

Medical records — Not released

Illinois State Senate records — None (Locked up to prohibit public view

Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost (All other Illinois state senators’ records are intact)

Law practice client list — Not released

University of Chicago scholarly articles — None


62 posted on 12/12/2008 5:54:01 PM PST by jarofants (Obama wants to bailout Kenya and other nations.)
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To: MilspecRob

http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/27/0.pdf

JOHN P. LAVELLE, JR., counsel for the DNC and OBAMA .
AMANDA LAFORGE on behalf of DEFENDANT THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
INDIRA HENRAD on behalf of DEFENDANT BARACK OBAMA

John P. Lavelle, Jr.
Attorney I.D. PA 54279
BALLARD SPAHR ANDREWS &
INGERSOLL, LLP
1735 Market Street, 51st Floor
Philadelphia, PA 19103
(215) 864-8603
(215) 864-9125 (Fax)
lavellej@ballardspahr.com

Joseph E. Sandler
SANDLER REIFF & YOUNG PC
300 M Street, S.E. Suite 1102
Washington, D.C. 20003
Telephone: (202) 479-1111
Fax: (202) 479-1115
sandler@sandlerreiff.com

Robert F. Bauer
General Counsel, Obama for America
PERKINS COIE
607 Fourteenth Street N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20005-2003
Telephone: 202.628.6600
Facsimile: 202.434.1690
RBauer@perkinscoie.com

Attorney’s for Defendant’s Barack Hussein Obama and The Democratic National Committee

If you seriously think there is a difference between the DNC and Obama on this matter then you are not even approaching honesty.


63 posted on 12/12/2008 5:57:52 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: SolidWood

Bob go fk yourself. It’s obvius you know something’s up and you are so damn worried about your Messiah obongo. He proves it, it’s over. He may be arrested before January 20th and the bc won’t even be an issue


64 posted on 12/12/2008 6:04:23 PM PST by KellyM37
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To: OldSmaj

I hear your common sense and agree to a point.

However, if I worked in any of those offices (especially the hospital or pediatricians) I would have been saying to myself, “wow, that mom or that kid was my patient.” If I was the neighbor or landlord, I would have certainly remembered. If I was a Hawaiin friend or classmate from UH, it would have not been hard to recall.

I’m just saying she & little ‘he’ must have crossed paths with at least one person with a memory.


65 posted on 12/12/2008 6:04:58 PM PST by Gemsbok
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To: Non-Sequitur

My understanding from reading the transcript of the interview is that it was done in English, Swahili, and Luo. Sarah Obama knows Luo and some Swahili, but not English from newspaper reports and that is what the transcript suggests.


66 posted on 12/12/2008 6:07:05 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: MilspecRob
Would you our anyone else post a link (other than someone else's post) that shows were Obama has spent a dime. He has not even been named in most of the law suits

You won't see that link posted, because one does not exist. Ironic, isn't it? The window lickers demand proof from Obama yet will grow magnificently indignant if proof is asked of their allegations.
These people are an embarrassment to this site, to conservatism, and to common sense in general.
The man's obviously, (to a sane person anyway), qualified to be POTUS per Art. II, Sec. I

67 posted on 12/12/2008 6:09:31 PM PST by jla (Sarah!)
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To: OldSmaj
A presentation of his Birth Certificate would solve the whole mess, what?

It's only a mess in the minds of people who've lost their wits over this whole thing. None of this matters to people who've seen how ridiculous these charges are.

68 posted on 12/12/2008 6:11:00 PM PST by Kleon
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To: freekitty
I am sure if you go back to some of the threads, you can find one that mentions the amounts

freekitty, Thats my point I've seen amounts ranging from $800,000 to 2 million, all without a single source other than "I saw it posted that *****"

A few years ago on some much different boards than FR, I was a lot younger, a lot better looking with a great car and a bunch of money. Didn't make it true then, and quoiting other people posts on a Internet site doesn't make that true now.

Have lawyers made money on this issue, sure, but look up the cases were Obama alone is the defendant and tell me how much cash has been expended there.

69 posted on 12/12/2008 6:12:29 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Sharrukin
If you seriously think there is a difference between the DNC and Obama on this matter then you are not even approaching honesty.

When it comes to paying bills or money in general I'm always honest and never stupid (well at least since I grew up)

70 posted on 12/12/2008 6:27:33 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: jarofants

In my state you have to show you birth certificate to drive a bus.
***Apparently in the federal system, you don’t need a valid birth certificate to throw your friends under a bus.


71 posted on 12/12/2008 6:35:52 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: MilspecRob

The money is just the sugar on top. The point is he has hired firms(s)to handle this bc issue. To me that is odd when all he has to do is show his unaltered, verified and documented bc for about $12 bucks.


72 posted on 12/12/2008 6:36:42 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: AJKauf

Very verry verrrrrry strange for the conspiracists only wanting the truth and the anti-conspiracists doggedly, stubbornly and at great expense denying the truth!

(given and accepted that the truth is in that envelope)

How dare they call healthy doubt a conspiracy?!


73 posted on 12/12/2008 6:42:35 PM PST by Mancolicani
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To: Gemsbok

Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle is not only campaigning against Barack Obama—she’s insinuating he’s not even from there.
A few weeks ago, the governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, said, “Senator Obama likes to say he’s from Hawaii. But, the truth is, I’ve never met him in my life. He’s never called me on the phone. Ninety-five percent of the people in my state had never heard of him before he ran for president.”

Gov. Lingle scoffed at the notion that Obama had any strong links with Hawaii, claiming that he’d spent only “a few high school years” in Hawaii.


74 posted on 12/12/2008 6:42:50 PM PST by KellyM37
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To: padre35

There was an article that said Gov Lingle didn’t seal it as all BC’s are off limits. It’s still suspicious that Fukino made statements that were perceived as claiming he was born in Hawaii right after his visit.


75 posted on 12/12/2008 6:55:30 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MilspecRob

Then show us a link where this has done less damage to zer0bama than spending $10 on releasing his BC. I have as much confidence of seeing your link as you do of seeing the converse. So where does that leave us? The burden of proof of qualifying... what does the constitution say? When does the President elect fail to qualify? Why would the 20th amendment writers focus on the PE failing to qualify rather than the individual voters having responsibility to prove he didn’t?

Look at the 20th amendment for a clue.
20th Amendment Sct3: “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:59:02 AM · by Kevmo · 79 replies · 1,451+ views
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2145602/posts


76 posted on 12/12/2008 6:57:12 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Post Toasties
Somebody interview her in detail quick before 0bama has her terminated.

She was and she said that she was there when he was born in Mombasa Kenya.

77 posted on 12/12/2008 6:57:19 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: dpwiener

Obama’s lawyers had Berg’s suit dismissed in the lower courts on the grounds of “lack of standing”. That’s how it got to SCOTUS. This was posted on FR before the election.


78 posted on 12/12/2008 7:03:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: freekitty
Oh Ok so your posts are “Big Hat, No Cattle"
79 posted on 12/12/2008 7:44:56 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: MilspecRob

McCain produced his BC when there were questions. Why won’t Obama.


80 posted on 12/12/2008 7:47:50 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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