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Bernard Madoff arrested over alleged $50 billion fraud (Former Nasdaq chairman)
YahooNews ^ | 12/11/08

Posted on 12/11/2008 7:14:49 PM PST by Sammy67

NEW YORK (Reuters) – Bernard Madoff, a long-time fixture and powerful adviser on Wall Street, was arrested and charged on Thursday with allegedly running a $50 billion Ponzi scheme, U.S. authorities said.

The former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market who remains a member of Nasdaq OMX Group Inc's nominating committee, is best known as the founder of Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC, the closely-held market-making firm he founded in 1960.

But the alleged fraud involved a hedge fund he ran from a separate floor of the building where his brokerage is based.

Madoff told senior employees of his firm on Wednesday that "it's all just one big lie" and that it was "basically, a giant Ponzi scheme," with estimated investor losses of about $50 billion, according to a criminal complaint against him.

A Ponzi scheme is a pyramid-type swindle in which very high returns are promised to early investors, who are

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1 posted on 12/11/2008 7:14:50 PM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

What isn’t a Ponzi scheme nowadays?


2 posted on 12/11/2008 7:16:40 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: Mojave

It’s has to be one of the largest Ponzi Scheme’s


3 posted on 12/11/2008 7:18:48 PM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

This can’t damage anyONE. Get it?

These are only Leftists involved. Now if it was Enron, with any connection to EVILBUSHCOCHIMPYMCHITLER, it’d be above-the-fold front page.


4 posted on 12/11/2008 7:19:30 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Sammy67
Prosecutors charged Madoff, 70, with a single count of securities fraud. They said he faces up to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $5 million.

So what is the downside of running a $50 billion dollar ponzi scheme?

5 posted on 12/11/2008 7:19:38 PM PST by OCC
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To: Sammy67

Wall Street sure has a lot of dry-rot.


6 posted on 12/11/2008 7:20:18 PM PST by BigFinn (cHANGE! WE HAZ IT!)
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To: Sammy67
"It’s has to be one of the largest Ponzi Scheme’s"

Compared to what the Federal Government is doing now, it's a pittance. Congress should rot in prison long before this guy does.

7 posted on 12/11/2008 7:21:12 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

You are correct! Politians are doing the same.


8 posted on 12/11/2008 7:23:00 PM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67
It’s has to be one of the largest Ponzi Scheme’s

Actually, Social Security is arguably the largest Ponzi scheme in history. Many trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities.
9 posted on 12/11/2008 7:23:24 PM PST by Deo volente (Gov. Rod Blagojevich (DEMOCRAT-IL): "I want to make money.")
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To: Sammy67
ho-lee smokes. I remember seeing madoff in the "pink sheets" back when they were, well, pink sheets. they've been around 4-ever.

The quote attributed to him may be uncharacteristically straightforward, but it just sounds like your typical highly leveraged hedge fund blowout, writ a bit large.

10 posted on 12/11/2008 7:24:12 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (appeasement is collaboration.)
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To: Deo volente
Actually, Social Security is arguably the largest Ponzi scheme in history. Many trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities.

A pithy saying.

11 posted on 12/11/2008 7:25:06 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (appeasement is collaboration.)
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To: BigFinn
Wall Street sure has a lot of dry-rot.

It breaks my heart to have to concur.

Onward. Financial markets are a strategic asset and something the US has always led in. It's time to focus on rebuilding them.

12 posted on 12/11/2008 7:26:13 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (appeasement is collaboration.)
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To: Sammy67
And of course he MUST be a republican
13 posted on 12/11/2008 7:26:27 PM PST by Foolsgold ("We live in the greatest country in the world and I am going to change it" Barry O'boomarang 2008)
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Another way to do this is at one remove from the actual trades. You put all the investors money under the management of some subordinate hedge fund operators.

New money goes into one, and then the other, and back and forth over a long period of time.

It's kind of like the deal your broker wants to set up that gives you several investment quality stocks, and gives you a fall-back with bonds (preferably US securities in recent months). It also enables this kind of crook to point to how much money people are making in OTHER funds he controls. At the same time he doesn't tell new investors about the other fund where they're losing their shirts to the fund making the money.

Anyway, the next step is to convince your hedge fund managers to use ETIFs as an "operating bank". With $50 billion bucks supposedly under management, you get an idea of how he could do this ~ the largest ETIFs are far smaller, though numbers of them float around $5 billion to $10 billion.

There is NO WAY your clients can keep up with this by watching the market indices. They have to assume you've spread their assets around to reflect the markets, so they do.

Not surprising the guy ran this for years. He was also big enough to get away with "naked short-selling" for a very long time.

BTW, one reason to use an ETIF as a "bank" is that NO ONE IS WATChING. After all, these things are not businesses with real expenses ~ so the focus is entirely on the market indices. If the ETIF goes up $5 billion every now and then no one cares except the other guys moving in and out of that ETIF. They cash in, move on to other stuff, and keep their mouths shut.

No doubt there are other operators running the same scheme.

I will predict that confidence in the markets tomorrow will be shaken to the core!

14 posted on 12/11/2008 7:27:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Sammy67

Name that party.


15 posted on 12/11/2008 7:28:22 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Deo volente
Only in discounted present value analyses.

So far inflation and expanding economic conditions have made it possible to keep on funding Social Security.

16 posted on 12/11/2008 7:29:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: OCC

I stole a candy bar from the store when I was 7 (they cost 5 cents retail back then). Got caught by my Mom.

My Dad ‘whupped’ my posterior when he found out about it; my 25 cent a week allowance was suspended for three months. They made me go confess to the store owner, pay for the candy bar and volunteer to work three hours a day on Saturdays for a month cleaning up around the store “Just so I’d learn my lesson”.

Apparently the lesson I should have learned, at least by today’s standards is: If you are going to steal, steal BIG.


17 posted on 12/11/2008 7:31:56 PM PST by LegendHasIt (Freepmail me if you want to join the Precious Metals ping list.)
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To: Sammy67

This is mind-boggling. How many more firms out there are doing the exact same thing? If Madoff is a crook, anyone could be a crook...


18 posted on 12/11/2008 7:33:35 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: Old Sarge

This can’t damage anyONE. Get it?

Yeah it will damage people like me who may not work tomorrow.


19 posted on 12/11/2008 7:42:08 PM PST by jy1297
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To: Sammy67

Nope, not even close. Social Security is a MULTI-TRILLION dollar Ponzi scheme.


20 posted on 12/11/2008 7:42:31 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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