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1 posted on 12/08/2008 8:07:06 PM PST by Gator_that_eats_Dems
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet.


2 posted on 12/08/2008 8:09:10 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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RE: Your screen name...

How do you get the foul taste out of your mouth?

3 posted on 12/08/2008 8:09:33 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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5 posted on 12/08/2008 8:16:30 PM PST by esarlls3
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

Obama has access to the actual BC when he was born under whatever name that was.

Upon his adoption by his mother’s second husband Obama’s original BC was sealed as his old identity no longer existed in the eyes of the law.

His adoption in Indonesia created a huge paper trail between two countries, the State of Hawaii and local government where is stepfather lived. He was issued a new BC and both governments created records of equal value and weight in term of his new identity under the law.

His mother would have to present his original BC for the adoption to take place. Where are those copies?

Was the BC with is new identity Barry Sotero issued by Indonesia? Where is that new BC with Lolo listed as his father?

Upon Barry Sotero’s return to the US he reached the age of emancipation and change his name to Barack Obama.

When did he do that? What was the legal process? He would have to notify multiple government agencies and this would have cost a tidy sum.

This process does not change your BC of adoption. In this case Barry Sotero. It only changes your name as you are not being adopted by anyone and the government is not developing a legal document of lawful parentage.

You are changing your name only.

Here is the rub, the copy of the BC you are seeing online is or could be issued to valid BC holders and might be the short form in lieu of a deep record search.

In other words the BC is a fraud. In order for Barack Obama to show a BC that contains his name of Barack Obama and his father and mother as we know it, the state of Hawaii would only have a long form document.

Barack Obama has access to his original BC before he was born but it is no longer valid. He can present either the short form, which many of us have seen or present the long form but they are not valid.

You... cannot change your adoption records or the alteration of those records for the purpose of adoption.

You can call yourself John Wayne and even legally change your name. But, your birth certificate will still say you are Marion Robert Morrison, born in Iowa, blah, blah, blah.

There!

I too was adopted, along with my brother and sister, when I was seven. My background is identical to Obama’s except that my adoption took place in two states and I have known my real father and all my relatives all my life.

I too looked into changing my last name back to my original, sometimes thinking about a heritage legacy thing. Obama changed his name to suit the identity he wanted. I probably won’t change my name as I would not hurt my dad’s feelings (you can call him stepfather).


6 posted on 12/08/2008 8:20:01 PM PST by Vendome
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I love artcles that start with “possible evidence”.


7 posted on 12/08/2008 8:22:01 PM PST by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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That’s enough of this crud, he’s been elected by an ignorant electorate and he’s now our President, so please, stop this.

THe more people chase this invisible rabbit down the hole, the more we look like Dan Rather with his report.

Sp please, let’s start working on solutions and stop chaing dreams.


9 posted on 12/08/2008 8:32:18 PM PST by gjones77
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All this “evidence the BC is fake” business does is confuse people on the fact that there ISN”T a birth certificate. It’s the Certificate of Live Birth that got dragged over hot coals. No one has seen Obama’s birth certificate. If they had, this issue would be over.

I just groan inside when I see articles like this. This is why people don’t understand the issue.


26 posted on 12/08/2008 10:34:52 PM PST by COgamer
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Illinois name change law includes publication. Who lives up there who can research old newspapers around Chicago?
http://www.namechangelaw.com/states/ill/illinois.htm


56 posted on 12/09/2008 3:33:25 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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