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SCOTUS Re: Obama....Live Thread

Posted on 12/05/2008 6:33:15 AM PST by maineman

I thought we should have a link to post any and all updates.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho; birth; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; donofrio; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; obamatruthsquad; odinga; scotus
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To: Blu By U; retrokitten; Velveeta; All

Chicago is a sick place:

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Where did he and the future First Lady first kiss? Take the Obama Chicago tour.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/travel/chi-obama-chicago-htmlpage,0,7487472.htmlpage


201 posted on 12/05/2008 9:24:58 AM PST by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: seekthetruth

You write: “There is evidence that McCain was born in Colon,Panama and therefore at birth was a native born citizen of Panama. He is a naturalized citizen of the US, but was not a “natural born” citizen at birth.”

You are simply WRONG about this. McCain was never naturalized. He did not EVER apply for US Citizenship and swear an oath to recieve it.

He was, most certainly a CITIZEN AT BIRTH.

As for “natural born” I claim that makes him such. Donofrio and his supporters claim a variety of additional tests must be applied such as “born on American soil” “neither parent citizen of another country” “father a born American” etc. But, they are essentially making all these claims up out of whole cloth.


202 posted on 12/05/2008 9:25:12 AM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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To: TexasCajun
I Believe!...I Believe!...I Believe!

Let us know if Tinkerbell makes it.

203 posted on 12/05/2008 9:25:13 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: AGreatPer

According to some blogs, Fox’s Murdoch decreed that they had to lay off Obama. He’s afraid of legal moves against ownership of TV and newspapers.


204 posted on 12/05/2008 9:25:30 AM PST by dervish (an armed citizenry would have helped in Mumbai)
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To: NellieMae
As far as I am concerned any child born anywhere on earth whose parents are out of the U.S.A. due to military service should automatically be declared a U.S. citizen.

Under U.S. law they are. But Donofrio doesn't subscribe to that.

205 posted on 12/05/2008 9:27:01 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: MSSC6644

Look up Roger Calero he is number 3. It will really blow your mind!


206 posted on 12/05/2008 9:27:50 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: jcsjcm

If he were ‘governed’ by Britain, then he would be a subject and not a free man.

That’s the crux of the natural born argument. Subjects are not good governors free people.


207 posted on 12/05/2008 9:29:24 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: jcsjcm
As well as Calero

Well I was concentrating on the two real candidates and not the one from the fringe.

208 posted on 12/05/2008 9:29:44 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: jcsjcm

“What it does is it divides his allegiance which our founding fathers did not want our President to have. “

That’s my point. Just because some other country gives you citizenship does that mena you automatically have that allegiance to them? Of course not. Wanna bet George Washington and all the other founding fathers also continued to hold British citizenship even after the Revolutionary War?


209 posted on 12/05/2008 9:29:56 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: jcsjcm

doesn’t work

I thought the Alan Keyes case was excellent.


210 posted on 12/05/2008 9:29:57 AM PST by dervish (an armed citizenry would have helped in Mumbai)
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To: jcsjcm
Joe Thunder, LA radio personality, reports that Big Media is on scene at SCOTUS, ABC, NBC, Washington Times, et al. There are about 50 people there now. Prayer happened. Media is interviewing everyone.
It's perfect. No signs, well behaved, etc. Let's hope it holds. Media is calling us as well.
A radio station in New York City wants to talk to me about Leo. Then Florida called. Then Georgia called. Then Pennsylvania called. Then Chicago, Dallas, Des Moines, and Denver called. Now I have 3 more waiting me on in the next hour -- Ed Hale, plainsradio.com.

LINK

211 posted on 12/05/2008 9:31:13 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: dervish

Its the new thing, media blackmail.

The MSM would fall apart without ad revenue.

Unfortunately there are people like Soros that control this, thus they are the puppetmaster of the MSM.

This whole nation is under stress in job security and we are all victims.


212 posted on 12/05/2008 9:32:17 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Americans should lead America, its the right way.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

O.k. Just wanted to make sure that anyone new checking information out didn’t think that it was only these 2 that Leo was fighting against. It just adds a good twist that should make the Justices at least review what each State Secretaries do. Which is nothing to vet our candidates!


213 posted on 12/05/2008 9:32:24 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: DooDahhhh
The reporter I heard on the msm said that the American voters said he was eligible by voting him in

It means that the dumbass was prolly at the top of his/her class in 'J' school.

214 posted on 12/05/2008 9:32:59 AM PST by tomkat
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To: LucyT

Our Armed Forces don’t “need” to produce a birth certificate. /sarc

The Federal Government can procure the document for recruiting purposes in a matter of hours.

This is a potential CIC.

SCOTUS can and must make this turd produce.


215 posted on 12/05/2008 9:33:04 AM PST by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: gracesdad
I’ve never gotten why people do this. I seriously doubt demonstrations will affect what the SC does.

For similar reasons many attend church services... to be amongst your own kind, to lift one other up, to witness to one another, to witness to the community at large, to lend support to one's beliefs, to garner attention to one's cause, to educate the uninformed, to attract support to one's cause, etc.. Perhaps, others will chime in with reasons unmentioned?

216 posted on 12/05/2008 9:33:17 AM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Joe Thunder, LA radio personality, reports that Big Media is on scene at SCOTUS, ABC, NBC, Washington Times, et al.

FOX is concentrating on the O.J. sentencing. I guess they have their priorities and we have our's.

217 posted on 12/05/2008 9:34:08 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: jcsjcm; Jack Black
It was a resolution made, but never passed as a law.

Natural Born Citizen

218 posted on 12/05/2008 9:34:38 AM PST by Spunky ((You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences))
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To: CodeToad
That’s my point. Just because some other country gives you citizenship does that mena you automatically have that allegiance to them? Of course not. Wanna bet George Washington and all the other founding fathers also continued to hold British citizenship even after the Revolutionary War?

Did you read the Constitution? They grandfathered themselves in knowing that they were not considered natural born even though they were born in this land. For one it wasn't even the United states so they were British citizens.
219 posted on 12/05/2008 9:35:23 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: Jack Black

Are you saying a naturalized citizen may be President of the USA?


220 posted on 12/05/2008 9:35:28 AM PST by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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