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NYT: Make The Mormons Walk To Wal-Mart
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/05/2008 3:46:03 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

In the social circles of the New York Times editorialists, it's OK to have one kid. Two is pushing the envelope. Three or more is tacky, and a threat to the survival of the planet.

That being so, there's really no reason to let any car bigger than a Prius be built. Doing so just encourages the unenlightened to overbreed. And so it is that in its editorial of today, the Grey-but-barren Lady suggests that as a condition of the Detroit bailout, "Congress could consider demanding that Detroit simply phase out S.U.V.’s and vans by a certain date."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: commiecontrolfreaks; envirowhackos; eugenics; hasidicjews; lifehate; mormon; mormons; nyt; nytimes; peoplehate; populationcontrol; socialengineering; suvs
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To: Cronos

Except for the military jeep for hunting only, I wouldn’t have one for free, they are in my estimation Tonka Toys.

They shouldn’t even allow that miniture crap on the street.


281 posted on 12/08/2008 2:40:48 AM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

So, you would like us all to drive MACK trucks?


282 posted on 12/08/2008 3:21:24 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: ExpatGator

You are on the wrong forum, troll. If you want to support your Allah-worshipping jihadifriends by sending them petro-dollars, go ahead, but don’t call yourself American.


283 posted on 12/08/2008 3:22:42 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: ExpatGator

So, when was the last time got the call from Abdul to send more $$ to Makkah and Madinah, eh? Recite the AlllahuAkbar daily along with your chants of Def to America, send more petrodollars to saudia?


284 posted on 12/08/2008 3:24:21 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: ExpatGator

And, I suppose you also liked John Walker lindh and support him, eh?


285 posted on 12/08/2008 3:26:59 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Speaking as the fourth of seven kids I tell the NYT’s to stuff it.
286 posted on 12/08/2008 3:29:50 AM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Cronos

You are a bizarre little creature.

Have you served your country in a war zone? Do not question my patriotism until you do so.


287 posted on 12/08/2008 3:30:38 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: ExpatGator
You are a bizarre little thing.

Have you served your country in a war zone? Or are you just making it up?

If you did serve then you wouldn't want to send money to your country's enemies.
288 posted on 12/08/2008 3:32:33 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: ExpatGator
If you want to debate, debate, don't just make snide comments and rants and then huff "I'm patriotic, I like freedom, I want to send money to the Saudis, SO THERE, nyaah."

Tell me that these four facts I've said are wrong:
FACT 1: we import a lot of oil from the Middle East
FACT 2: money that goes there goes into Islamojihadi hands
FACT 3: Islamojihadis want to destroy America and will attack Americans and American interests world-wide.
FACT 4: We can replace foreign oil by conserving our own oil, drilling ANWAR, using American coal and American Natural Gas as fuel, building more nuclear power plants (France gets 80% of it's electricity from nuclear power plants), etc.

If you disagree with any of those points, or have a better solution, tell me, I'm all ears.

If you want to propose we follow Ann Coulter (invade their countries, take their oil and convert them) -- I'll agree that that's a better plan. No one would go for that, so we gotta do the next best thing.
289 posted on 12/08/2008 3:39:02 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: ExpatGator
Warming up to my theme -- at no point have I agreed with the NYT, on the contrary I say that a blanket ban is stupid and one extreme -- the other extreme being the "let's use up as much oil as possible, woo hoo".

No, there needs to be public morality about this -- and while most CONSERVatives will instinctly conserve, liberals will make the argument that they should use whatever and whenver they like. That's NOT freedom, that is naked consumerism with disregard to others and to the country and to the future.
290 posted on 12/08/2008 3:49:03 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Cronos

I’m a strict constructionist. I extend the lessons of our American founding fathers to this situation “ Free and honest trade with all nations and entangling alliances with none”.

I’m a free trader. On the other hand, any nation that supports terrorists should be punished militarily through the application of overwhelming force. We would not have a problem with these little pissant countries if this policy was used.

Instead we fiddle-fart around with these petty little tyrannies, all the while buying their stuff.

Your answer to this is to restrict the freedoms of Americans! Typical Euro-marxist response. Expedient policies got us here and will not get us out of the problem.

“Public Morality” sounds like a term used on the Continent in the 30’s.
“That’s NOT freedom, that is naked consumerism with disregard to others and to the country and to the future” sounds like more of the same. Long live National Socialism. Sieg Heil!

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


291 posted on 12/08/2008 4:30:28 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: ExpatGator
Your answer to this is to restrict the freedoms of Americans! Typical Euro-marxist response. Expedient policies got us here and will not get us out of the problem.

Then, what do you advocate? A full-on attack on Paki-land, Saudi-Wahhabia and nukinMecca&Medina?
292 posted on 12/08/2008 4:40:44 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: ExpatGator
Your answer to this is to restrict the freedoms of Americans! Typical Euro-marxist response. Expedient policies got us here and will not get us out of the problem.

Then, what do you advocate? A full-on attack on Paki-land, Saudi-Wahhabia and nukinMecca&Medina?
293 posted on 12/08/2008 4:44:33 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Cronos
FACT 1: we import a lot of oil from the Middle East

The amount of oil imported into the US (a majority of which does NOT come from the Middle East) is a direct result of our left-wing government's restrictions on domestic drilling and production. So why do some advocate, as it seems that you do, that the same government that caused this situation should further crush individual freedom to force another "solution"?

The solution would come quickly from the free market, if it were allowed to be free. The government stands in the way.

I recall when the government decided to "deregulate" the electric utility industry. They called it deregulation, but it was no such thing. They claimed that there'd be more competitors producing power and that the price would drop. But while they said all that, they continued to restrict or prevent the construction of the very power plants that would provide the competition needed to push prices down. The result - "deregulation" has brought about more restrictions on the electric utility industry, as well as a plethora of paperwork and unnecessary chicanery needed to satisfy the new regulations. "Deregulation" in this case meant thousands of pages of additional regulations and controls on an industry that needed no such thing.

Such is the way of government solutions - they usually cost a great deal and seldom provide the advertized results.

294 posted on 12/08/2008 4:48:11 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: Cronos

That question was not worth asking twice.

Your roots are showing in your use of Paki-land.


295 posted on 12/08/2008 4:51:53 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: ExpatGator

It’s worth asking if you don’t answer it.


296 posted on 12/08/2008 5:05:18 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Cronos

You do not understand where freedom comes from, nor how it is maintained. My answer would be pearls before swine and our exchange thus far has been a monumental waste of my time. I’ll not add to that waste. Bye bye Subject.


297 posted on 12/08/2008 5:31:18 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Cronos

“Answer me honestly, does Person A driving an SUV in the city only for city driving have as compelling a need as person B who’s a farmer?”

Honestly? Up till now I thought you wanted me to lie to you.

...here is the answer. You are a socialist but maybe you just don’t know it yet. Don’t worry, you are slowly realizing it.

I don’t care about compelling needs, petrodollars and mcmansions like you do. I care about freedom, something you apparently have lost.

As long as we are ranking needs to determine who can use what, I can tell that you don’t need any cars at all, ever. Give yours away or prove to me you NEED one. Please fill out the form below in triplicate, I’ll review it and take it under advisement and let you in no less than 6 months whether you merit any form of motorized transportation. I am sure you won’t mind. It’ll save on Petro-dollars.

Did you vote for Obama?


298 posted on 12/08/2008 5:57:07 AM PST by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals really intend to increase the misery through their actions. Gives them power)
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To: Cronos

“Freedom does not mean blowign up the country’s money.”

Cronos, do you have any idea how communistic that is?

As much as I love my country, its heritage, the founding fathers, those that have fought and died defending my freedoms, it is not America’s money.

I have said not one thing about oil. If the US embargoed all arabian oil, I would have no problem. I will pay more for American oil right now, today at the pump if possible.

As far as your freedom, you will be the one that will take it away from not only yourself but others.


299 posted on 12/08/2008 6:04:03 AM PST by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals really intend to increase the misery through their actions. Gives them power)
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To: ExpatGator

Exactly — all of your statements have been invective, with no valid arguments or point, just vehemence. Buh-bye.


300 posted on 12/08/2008 6:09:07 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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