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NYT: Make The Mormons Walk To Wal-Mart
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/05/2008 3:46:03 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

In the social circles of the New York Times editorialists, it's OK to have one kid. Two is pushing the envelope. Three or more is tacky, and a threat to the survival of the planet.

That being so, there's really no reason to let any car bigger than a Prius be built. Doing so just encourages the unenlightened to overbreed. And so it is that in its editorial of today, the Grey-but-barren Lady suggests that as a condition of the Detroit bailout, "Congress could consider demanding that Detroit simply phase out S.U.V.’s and vans by a certain date."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: commiecontrolfreaks; envirowhackos; eugenics; hasidicjews; lifehate; mormon; mormons; nyt; nytimes; peoplehate; populationcontrol; socialengineering; suvs
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To: Cronos
ok, why do you say no unbridled free market? Specifically talking about the financial industry please.

Because we haven't had a truly free market, financial or otherwise, since well before FDR.

241 posted on 12/07/2008 3:16:10 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: Cronos
you’re at liberty to buy gas guzzlers adn give away so many $$$s to the Muslim Jihadi backers....

Sounds like you should be supporting domestic oil production, not government-imposed vehicle restrictions. Write your congressman...

242 posted on 12/07/2008 3:19:13 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Isn’t that where kids come from? :)


243 posted on 12/07/2008 3:21:33 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: meyer
you’re at liberty to buy gas guzzlers adn give away so many $$$s to the Muslim Jihadi backers....

Do you then support the Islamic terrorists?

We need to drill in Alaska, but we need to conserve Alaskan fuel so that neither we, nor our descendents ever have to be rely on foreign oil
244 posted on 12/07/2008 3:58:45 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: meyer

that also includes using coal to make more electricity, making more cars and trucks hybrid or diesel, building more nuclear power plants, more ethanol in our gas, more compressed natural gas vehicles, using solar and wind power where we can to supplant nuclear power, using our oil supply judiciously, etc. — all of that goes to naught if some folks say “I can pay, so let me use up our nation’s future”


245 posted on 12/07/2008 4:00:44 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Scotswife

Anoreth would drive herself everywhere if she was allowed.


246 posted on 12/07/2008 4:39:09 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: fproy2222
They say that since it is very seldom they are all going to the same place at the same time, it was actually cheaper then running one big car all over.

A. Fine if thats their CHOICE.

B. That is frankly bullsh#t. Not if you factor in, maintance and insurance costs.
247 posted on 12/07/2008 4:49:34 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Don’t worry. The Koreans, or the Chinese or the Japanese or even the Euro’s will be happy to make some to meet the demand.....


248 posted on 12/07/2008 4:51:05 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: Cronos

You are a potential National Socialist/Marxist/Communist.

I swore to uphold and defend the Constitution against people like you.


249 posted on 12/07/2008 5:42:23 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: ExpatGator

Really, so that means you DO wish to support the Islamic terorists by sending them your petro-dollars to spend on supporting jihadis to attack America, Americans and American interests? Very patriotic. The next time you take a hummer up 5th avenue and rev it at the signals, think of all the money you’ll be sending to Osama Bin Laden.


250 posted on 12/07/2008 6:07:57 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: meyer
Because we haven't had a truly free market, financial or otherwise, since well before FDR.

If you;re talking about the free market laws that Teddy Roosevelt put in, remember that America had a number of runs on the banks before the 30s stabilised things somewhat
251 posted on 12/07/2008 6:09:33 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: meyer; Cronos

It makes me laugh at how much people pick on the SUV’s yet has anyone mention safty over enviorment and purse?

I was listening to Daniel G. Amen, MD is a physician, psychiatrist, brain imaging specialist, and he included in his talk to protect the brain drive a safe car.

The lighter cars may not be a gas guzzler like the SUV’s but the SUV is a solid safe car.


252 posted on 12/07/2008 6:41:37 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

New SUV’s get better gas mileage and pollute less than many smaller, older cars, especially poorly-maintained ones. And what about auto racing - talk about a waste!


253 posted on 12/07/2008 6:56:42 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: restornu
My ‘05 Cheve Tahoe gets 16 in the city and 20 on the highway. I saw some little piece of %^&* car advertised on TV as a gas saver that got the same mileage. WHAT? As long as there are Tahoes that is what I am driving for safety and comfort.
254 posted on 12/07/2008 7:02:48 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Cronos; restornu
Cronos. Can you get it through your head that most on this thread believe that freedom is more important than security?

no more...no less.

Attitudes like yours are much more of a threat to the American way of life that anyone from Mecca or Medina.

You really are no different than other liberals that desire to control ours lives based upon their views.

I still think my interpretation of Latin of your tag line is really closer than what you think your tag line means.

Bully for you.

255 posted on 12/07/2008 7:04:24 AM PST by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals really intend to increase the misery through their actions. Gives them power)
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To: Cronos; ExpatGator

Cronos:

Fixated upon petro-dollars instead of freedom.

Freedom is more important security. Period.

You want to take away more of our freedom.

Perhaps you ought to get out of NYC sometime.

Are you just filled with envy of those in NYC with large vehicles?


256 posted on 12/07/2008 7:09:49 AM PST by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals really intend to increase the misery through their actions. Gives them power)
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To: Tax-chick; Cronos; restornu
Cronos:

OK, a lot of activities are ‘wasteful’.

After SUVs are banned by people like you what will you ban next to limit ‘abuse’, and save ‘petro-dollars’?

I am serious. People like you will move onto other freedoms that don't agree with your deluded minds.

What will it be?
Government controlled:
thermostats
mileage
sport activities
size of families
size of houses (you are probably fond of the term McMansion)
amount of food
size/number of RV’s
Pay to any and every member of society

Tell me Cronos, Where will you stop? What is the last freedom will you take from me? Think of Rhineland, the Anschluss in Austria, Poland, France, Europe, Russia,

Where will you stop?

257 posted on 12/07/2008 7:20:53 AM PST by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals really intend to increase the misery through their actions. Gives them power)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

I agree that stopping purchases of oil from our country’s enemies is a good idea. This could be done without targeting any particular product for punitive taxation. Gas prices would go up, more than likely, but if our own domestic resources were opened for exploitation, and other sources of energy maximized, prices would quickly fall again. For example, if we built more nuclear plants to generate electricity, more oil would be available for other uses.

In other words, I don’t think we have to posit a tradeoff between freedom and security in this area. We need *more* freedom to develop domestic energy sources, and the motivation could be provided by ending purchases from our enemies.


258 posted on 12/07/2008 7:49:52 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: Tax-chick

How old is Anoreth?

Our second oldest will turn 16 in April, and he thinks that will be the day he gets to roam free.
He forgets it took his sister a year to go from permit to junior license.
She bought her own car during her senior year in high school.

I know I said this in other threads, but don’t know if you were on those threads - we lost one child ten years ago.

So while I’ve had 8 children - I am raising just 7.

So - with one driving on her own, we fit the other 6 very comfortably in our Sequoia.


259 posted on 12/07/2008 9:00:09 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

Anoreth will be 18 in March, and plans on going to college locally for another couple of years. Bill is 14, and he’ll be taking driver’s ed next week, but can’t get a permit until he’s 15 (next April) or a license until he’s 16.

I’m sorry, if I’d read that you lost a child, I didn’t remember.


260 posted on 12/07/2008 9:03:49 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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