Posted on 12/03/2008 11:43:31 PM PST by BP2
By James Wright
AFRO Staff Writer
(December 3, 2008) - In a highly unusual move, U.S. Associate Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has asked his colleagues on the court to consider the request of an East Brunswick, N.J. attorney who has filed a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obamas status as a United States citizen.
Thomass action took place after Justice David Souter had rejected a petition known as an application for a stay of writ of certiorari that asked the court to prevent the meeting of the Electoral College on Dec. 15, which will certify Obama as the 44th president of the United States and its first African-American president.
The court has scheduled a Dec. 5 conference on the writ -- just 10 days before the Electoral College meets.
The high courts only African American is bringing the matter to his colleagues as a result of the writ that was filed by attorney Leo Donofrio. Donofrio sued the New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Wells, contending that Obama was not qualified to be on the states presidential ballot because of Donofrios own questions about Obama citizenship.
Donofrio is a retired lawyer who identifies himself as a citizens advocate. The AFRO learned that he is a contributor to naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com, a Web site that raises questions about Obamas citizenship.
Calls made to Donofrios residence were not returned to the AFRO by press time.
Donofrio is questioning Obamas citizenship because the former Illinois senator, whose mom was from Kansas, was born in Hawaii and his father was a Kenyan national. Therefore, Donofrio argues, Obamas dual citizenship does not make Obama a natural born citizen as required by Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution, which states:
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President
...to prevent the meeting of the Electoral College on Dec. 15, which
will certify Obama as the 44th president of the United States...
Donofrio had initially tried to remove the names not only of Obama, but also the names of Republican Party presidential nominee John McCain and Socialist Workers Party Roger Calero from appearing on the Nov. 4 general election ballot in his home state of New Jersey.
McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone when it was a U.S. possession. Calero would be ineligible to be president because he was born in Nicaragua.
After his efforts were unsuccessful in the New Jersey court system, he decided to take his case to a higher level.
On Nov. 6, Souter denied the stay. Donofrio, following the rules of the procedure for the Supreme Court, re-submitted the application as an emergency stay in accordance to Rule 22, which states, in part, that an emergency stay can be given to another justice, which is the choice of the petitioner.
Donofrios choice was Thomas. He submitted the emergency stay to Thomass office on Nov. 14. Thomas accepted the application on Nov. 19 and on that day, submitted it for consideration by his eight colleagues - known as a conference - and scheduled it for Dec. 5.
On Nov. 26, a supplemental brief was filed by Donofrio to the clerks office of the Supreme Court. A letter to the court explaining the reason for the emergency stay was filed on Dec. 1 at the clerks office.
Thomass actions were rare because, by custom, when a justice rejects a petition from his own circuit, the matter is dead. Even if, as can be the case under Rule 22, the matter can be submitted to another justice for consideration, that justice out of respect, will reject it also, said Trevor Morrison, a professor of law at Columbia University School of Law.
Morrison said that Thomass actions are once in a decade. When that does happen, the case has to be of an extraordinary nature and this does not fit that circumstance, he said. My guess would be that Thomas accepted the case so it would go before the conference where it will likely be denied. If Thomas denied the petition, then Donofrio would be free to go to the other justices for their consideration.
This way, I would guess, the matter would be done with. Petitions of Donofrios types are hardly ever granted.
Traditionally, justices do not respond to media queries, according to a spokesman from the Supreme Court Public Information Office.
Thomas was appointed to the Supreme Court by President George H.W. Bush in 1991 and has been one of its most conservative members.
Before his ascension to the court, he was appointed by Bush to the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. Earlier, he served as chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission - appointed by President Reagan - and worked various jobs under former Republican Sen. John Danforth.
It would take a simple majority of five justices to put Donofrios emergency stay on the oral argument docket. Because it is an emergency by design, the argument would take place within days.
Donofrio wants the court to order the Electoral College to postpone its Dec. 15 proceedings until it rules on the Obama citizenship. He is using the 2000 case Bush vs. Gore case as precedent, arguing that it is of such compelling national interest that it should be given priority over other cases on the courts docket.
The same conditions apply here, Donofrio said in his letter to the court, as the clock is ticking down to Dec. 15, the day for the Electoral College to meet.
Audrey Singer, a senior fellow at Washingtons Brookings Institution, who is an expert on immigration, said that the Donofrio matter is going nowhere.
There is no way that anyone can argue about whether Barack Obama is a citizen, Singer said. In this country, we have a system known as jus soli or birthright by citizenship. You are a citizen by being born on American soil and he (Obama) was born in Hawaii.
Singer said that Donofrios argument that Obamas father was a Kenyan national does not matter because citizenship is not based on parentage, but on where someone was born.
This is the issue that some people have with illegal aliens in our country, she said. Children of illegal aliens, if they are born in the United States, are U.S. citizens. That is in the U.S. Constitution.
“AH, well, what part of the law says that Dual Citizenship, which is not currently recognized by the US, is “OKAY”?”
If this is supposed to disqualify Obama on the basis he was eligible for British citizenship due to the status of his father and and the act passed in ‘48, would that mean all Britain would have to do to reclaim her colonies over here is just make us all eligible for British citizenship? Would that make us all have ‘conflicted’ loyalties and thus no one could be President?
Or would we just tell Gordon Brown to lay off the bathtub gin? :)
Regarding the ‘95 Act perhaps they just realized it was redundant? What part states that the children of diplomats and military members stationed overseas would be rendered ineligible for the presidency and why? Is that sort of arbitrary reduction of an innocent child’s rights in keeping with the definition of freedom they propounded in the Federalist Papers, The Declaration and the Constitution itself?
Why would any rational nation punish those representing and defending them in such a dubious manner by stigmatizing their children? Is there any discussion *ANYWHERE* that would result in those children losing their status?
“AH, well, what part of the law says that Dual Citizenship, which is not currently recognized by the US, is ‘OKAY’?”
Uh, well, the part that doesn’t say it doesn’t accept dual citizenship. If nothing says dual citizenship isn’t allowable, then dual citizenship is allowable.
Where do you get the part about the U.S. not currently recognizing dual citizenship? My understanding is the exact opposite.
Historical works are not the law. The Declaration of Independence has no significance as law in the United States of America (which came into being with the Constitution).
“However, just five years later, Congress met to clarify certain parts of the previous Naturalization Act. Among other things, the Naturalization Act of 1795 removed the words ‘natural born’ from this statement”
So what?
Any news yet on this?
If words have meaning, then we have the foundation for a free republic. If the meaning of words is malleable, there is no foundation for a free republic to exist.
Thank you for posting the Words.
“and its just THE FATES that they cant drop a baby on Uncle Sams head. Its the fates the lineage has to wait a generation.”
Oh, so it’s the Fates that decide. I forgot for a second that this was Ancient Greece and not some place where you write your rules down.
“Its the rules: you come from voracious place attempting this insidious doctrine, we make you wait a generation before you and yours have the very highest right to run our country.”
If the Fates say so. Could somebody ask Zeus to tell them to write it down somewhere, just in case they’re busy next election?
You might want to take a look at this:
http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html
“If words have meaning, then we have the foundation for a free republic. If the meaning of words is malleable, there is no foundation for a free republic to exist”
You mean like the “words” natural born citizen “meaning” born a citizen?
The United States Senate did just that last April in their well-researched Senate Resolution 511 which determined that John McCain was a "natural born" citizen because he met two important conditions: both parents were American citizens and he was born on American territory. This Resolution may not be Law but it is based upon the Senate's research of the Law and the Courts.
You might want to take a look at this:
I have already, and I already knew this was where most of the ammunition was coming from. I don’t buy it.
I agree with you that this argument will not hold, but not because of the merits. Merits don’t matter, politicians will not touch this issue and would no more deny Obama his office than enforce the Constitution. Supreme Court Justices are just an odd sub species of politican in the final analysis.
Tublecane; BP2; calenel; LucyT
[BP2 wrote: “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.” — Ronald Reagan]
Now BP2, I dont think Reagan was speaking to the same very distinct matter. Are you then sympathizing with the libs and libertarians who decry the natural born phrase as outmoded in a globalist world? Now if really one extrapolated on this quote of President Reagans, wed surely have plenty of easily qualified natural born candidates to be elected (from) among the rabble in some corner of the US after a nuclear war, or whatever one can imagine .well, a civil war, which has been offered as a very real possibility if this electee does this or that. Youd need to establish electors and all the rest, who neednt be natural born. The Confederacy I assume did with election of Jefferson Davis.
Safe to say youd have plenty natural-borners to choose from to lead, unless someones developed and deploys a neutron bomb that especially takes us out.
No ~ I mean like the words Natural Born Citizen meaning Natural Born Citizen.
Go take a look at Vol 7 of the US Foreign Affairs Manual regarding Dual Citizenship, then get back to me...
Zeus and SPANKY!!!
“Go take a look at Vol 7 of the US Foreign Affairs Manual regarding Dual Citizenship, then get back to me...”
Go look up the word “manual” in a dictionary, then tell me why I should bother. Manuals are not laws. Give me laws!
Please tell me the last US President that had Dual Citizenship?
“Please tell me the last US President that had Dual Citizenship?”
What’s your point?
Well, obviously you know something that US Presidents since circa 1837 don’t... Please let me know when you have the answer
Just because no one with Obama’s particulars had been elected before does not mean no one with Obama’s particulars could be elected. Pointing out that none of our previous presidents had dual citizenship at birth (if in fact that’s true) is a non-argument. Tradition is not law.
“Well, obviously you know something that US Presidents since circa 1837 dont... Please let me know when you have the answer”
What’s that, the fact that people born as citizens are natural born citizens? Who cares whether our U.S. presidents knew that, if as you seem to be implying they had no split loyalties.
Your point would be better taken if you had said, “Well, obviously you know something that people with dual citizenship since circa 1837 don’t,” since some of them might have been unaware that they were elligible for the presidency, according to my view.
Perhaps our Senators can put this issue behind them with a resolution for Obama akin to SR 511 that they all agreed to for McCain. Of course they might just choke on their proverbial wisdom since Resolution 511, based on considerable research of American law and litigation by Senatorial staff, determined that McCain was a "natural born" citizen because he met two vital requirements: both his parents were American citizens and he was born on American territory.
So then just who needs the Supreme Court now that our learned politicians have spoken and defined "natural born" with such certainty in this great Resolution of theirs. Perhaps we just need to remind and hold their feet to the fire.
How is it possible for this Senate of ours to unanimously adopt SR 511 on one hand and even think of calling Obama Mr President Elect on the other??? Are they all such transparent fools???
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