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Obama's state secret: His birth certificate!
WND ^ | 11/21/08 | Joe Farah

Posted on 11/21/2008 2:05:30 PM PST by pissant

So much for those pledges of "open government."

So much for those promises of "change."

So much for his upcoming oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.

Barack Hussein Obama is still refusing to disclose to the American public something as innocent and as basic as his full, undoctored birth certificate to establish beyond any shadow of a doubt – and that doubt is growing daily – that he is a natural-born American citizen.

Ironically, now that the election is over, the pressure is building. A few bold members of Congress are getting interested in demanding hearings on the issue. The lawsuits are increasing. More pundits and activists are beginning to mobilize.

I, too, am raising the stakes.

Beginning today, I am personally sponsoring a petition campaign right here at this Internet news source, to all controlling legal authorities to determine Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency under Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution and to use all of their persuasive powers to make this information freely available to the rulers of this country – we the people.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bhosos; birthcertificate; certifigate; farah; larrysinclairslover; letitgoalready; obama; obamasecrets; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile
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To: Oldschoolreformer
And finally, how does any of this help grow our party to a winnable size for 2010 midterms?

The party can go to hell for all I care. The constitution is bigger than a party or a single election. As far as the rest of your post is concerned it's a real nice rant but means little to anyone with even some very basic civics knowledge. the simple fact remains that the constitution cannot be overruled even by the will of the voters.
121 posted on 11/21/2008 3:31:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Then be sure to pass it on to all your friends! Go viral! Find out you’ve been snookered, for fun and profit.


122 posted on 11/21/2008 3:32:26 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: Right Cal Gal
"You must be born within the United States to be eligible for the Presidency"

Actually that is not correct. You must be 35, a natural-born citizen and 14 years a resident. Those are the Constitutional requirements. The first law that defined natural born was this one:

1790 First Congress, Act of March 26th, 1790, 1 Stat. 103.

"And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States".

Subsequently there were additions and revisions, such as the law that was in effect at the time of McCain's birth:

1934 Act of May 24, 1934, Section 1, 48 Stat. 797.

"Any child hereafter born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, whose father or mother or both at the time of birth of such child is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States: but the rights of citizenship shall not descend to any such child unless the citizen father or citizen mother, as the case may be, has resided in the United States previous to the birth of such child. In cases where one of the parents is an alien, the right of citizenship shall not descend unless the child comes to the United States and resides therein for at least five years continuously immediately previous to his eighteenth birthday, and unless, within six months after the child's twenty-first birthday, he or she shall take an oath of allegiance to the United States of America as prescribed by the Bureau of Naturalization."

And then the law at the time of Obama's birth:

1952 The Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S. Code Section 1401 (b). (Section 301 of the Act).

"Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

"(1) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

"(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years."

123 posted on 11/21/2008 3:34:03 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: pissant

Here is the current oath to which he affirmed as a Senator:

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Oath_Office.htm

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.


124 posted on 11/21/2008 3:36:27 PM PST by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: El Gato

And the key question as before is: why doesn’t Obama simply produce his birth certificate?

If there is embarrassing information as opposed to information disqualifying him on it, so what, he has been elected and that information can’t really hurt him. One wonders why he is stonewalling.

My guess is there could be “questions” about it re the comment made above that his mother hadn’t lived in the U.S. the previous 5 years or something similar.


125 posted on 11/21/2008 3:37:45 PM PST by boxer21
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To: CaptRon; DaiHuy

I was told that if Obama is disqualified, then the Democrat Electors can vote for whom so ever they wish, as long as the person was registered as eligible to run for President.

Could be Hilary Clinton, Bill Richardson, or anyone who qualified with the FEC.


126 posted on 11/21/2008 3:39:43 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (If the Catholic Church doesn't boldly proclaim God's Word, I'm going to convert to Judaism.)
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To: Oldschoolreformer

I think following the Constitution is a pretty good way to assure the trust of the people - I don’t know about you though...


127 posted on 11/21/2008 3:39:58 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Oldschoolreformer

Oh, and WELCOME TO FR!


128 posted on 11/21/2008 3:40:18 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Cyber Liberty

“Then be sure to pass it on to all your friends!”
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I still haven’t seen it.


129 posted on 11/21/2008 3:41:15 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Right Cal Gal
You must be born within the United States to be eligible for the Presidency - you cannot be born on foreign soil, even if both your parents are citizens. Only ONE of Obigula’s parents is a citizen.

Only if you think a natural born citizen and a citizen at birth, are different things. People born of two US parents, or one parent that meets the US residence requirement, are citizens at birth. Including McCain, not including the Anointed One, if he was not born in the US.

This has never been adjudicated. The first law, passed in 1790, on such issues, declared:

And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."

So it seems the first Congress, comprised of many of the same people who wrote the Constitution, which was ratified a year earlier, disagree with you.

130 posted on 11/21/2008 3:41:45 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Posted 71 times since 2p.m.


131 posted on 11/21/2008 3:41:52 PM PST by upcountry miss
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To: Uncle Miltie

Indeed. One says “Certification” and the other says “Certificate”. Two different things completely.


132 posted on 11/21/2008 3:42:39 PM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Repeal The 17th

That’s not my problem.


133 posted on 11/21/2008 3:42:49 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: pissant

Keep a-fightin’ !


134 posted on 11/21/2008 3:43:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
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To: upcountry miss

Is that all? And there are all these FReepers dumbstruck at the fact that it hasn’t been presented to them with a fully illustrated roadmap on how to get there.


135 posted on 11/21/2008 3:44:07 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: DaiHuy
Just wondering for you legal types, but if O ran, knowing that he was not eligible, and won knowing he could be found out, wouldn’t, or shouldn’t that invalidate the whole election, and a new election have to take place. I mean how could Joe Biden benefit from fraud.

Wouldn't Obama be guilty of bilking a **lot** of people out of **millions** of dollars? Geeze! Thousands of people donated money to his campaign. He accepted and used that money. Isn't this **criminal** fraud?

If Obama is not a natural born citizen then I think criminal charges and prison time are the correct response.

136 posted on 11/21/2008 3:44:54 PM PST by wintertime
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To: exnavy

“Everyone is aware that McNutt was born in the canal zone. P-A-N-A-M-A”

On the contrary.

Most of us KNOW McNut was born in Colón, Republic of Panama, and not the Canal Zone.


137 posted on 11/21/2008 3:45:10 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: El Gato
And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.

I'm recalling that this language from 1790 was modified in 1795 to read "... shall be considered as citizens." This would mean an intentional distinction from natural born citizens.

138 posted on 11/21/2008 3:48:01 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Cyber Liberty

Nor mine, honestly.


139 posted on 11/21/2008 3:48:05 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: El Gato
It's all there in the Constitution, except what to do when a candidate is found to be disqualified, *after* the selection of the electors pledged to him.

Then you'd be talking impeachment, as fraudulently passing oneself off as a natural born citizen to run for president when knowing it to be a lie has to be a high crime and misdemeanor, not to mention scamming donors for their money.

-PJ

140 posted on 11/21/2008 3:50:12 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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