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CA: Bad? You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet
KQED - Capitol Notes ^ | 11/20/08 | John Myers

Posted on 11/20/2008 5:56:34 PM PST by NormsRevenge

It's kind of hard to be surprised by bad economic and budget news in California these days. After all, there's virtual unanimty that we're in deep you-know-what.

And yet, today's full analysis by the Legislature's nonpartisan budget watchers is still shocking... probably for its opinion that the problems stretch across almost every single aspect of state revenues and expenditures.

The annual fiscal outlook, the first under newly minted Legislative Analyst Mac Taylor, adds some details to the gloomy projections the LAO released just nine days ago. That projection focused on a $28 billion gap by July 2010.

Ready for some more bad news?

The Five Year Flu: The LAO report concludes the current economic storm, which could easily keep blowing into the next fiscal year, will result in a prolonged period of revenue problems. Analysts now predict it will take until the 2013-2014 budget year for state government revenues to surpass those received just last year -- in total, a five year recovery.

And It Could Be Worse: The report, with a nod toward the fact that no one really knows how much worse things will get, includes a scenario where personal income grows only half as much as the LAO now predicts for 2009 and 2010. The result: another $4.5 billion less in state government revenues in the short term.

Capital Gains Collapse: The outlook for capital gains revenues really helps tell the overall story. Profits on stocks and real estate are a major component of personal income tax revenues for the state, and thus a major component of government revenues. The LAO outlook now projects capital gains will decrease from $125 billion in the 2007 tax year to just $65 billion in 2008... almost a 50% drop in one year. In 2009, the LAO believes capital gains will fall to just $41 billion -- that's a 66% evaporation of capital gains revenues in just two years.

Housing, Unemployment: Two more signs of the meltdown... while more than 200,000 new residential building permits were issued in both 2004 and 2005, the annual totals this year and next are expected to only be about 70,000. Meantime, California's unemployment level was about 4.9% in 2006; by next year, the LAO believes it will be 9%... or higher.

Expenses: Lest anyone think the problem is strictly too little cash, the LAO projects an ongoing rise in state government expenses (but to be fair, the projected problems seem to be much more severe on the other side of the ledger). Some biggies -- public schools (K-12) spending to rise by 2.2% a year; Medi-Cal spending to rise by an average of 6.1% a year; in-home supportive services (IHSS) to average 7.9% more a year; and prison spending to increase an average of 2.6% a year.

But the winner... debt service. The LAO predicts payments for all of the state's borrowing through bonds will rise an average of 9.9% a year. That increase includes the bonds approved by voters just two weeks ago.

This kind of sober assessment would presumably shake up the cuts/taxes soap opera that's been playing out in the Legislature these past few years. For now, it hasn't; another leadership meeting today apparently didn't move the ball over the goal line.

Plans for a weekend budget vote in one or both houses have been scrapped... with the best case scenario now being some sort of budget action taken just before that Thanksgiving turkey gets popped into the oven.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bad; calbondage; calbudget; california; deficit; lao; schwarzenegger
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“Is there any fiscal sanity anywhere in this country?”

NO

“Is the entire nation governed by blithering idiots?”

YES

any more questions?


21 posted on 11/20/2008 7:28:34 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: freedumb2003

Utah spends each year figuring out which tax to cut. The income tax is down to 5 percent or so. (Don’t think they’ll cut ant this year though)


22 posted on 11/20/2008 7:28:43 PM PST by Technocrat (Palin-Romney 2012!! Or vice versa.)
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To: NormsRevenge

CA in trouble? If they’d just vote in more liberals ... oh, wait...


23 posted on 11/20/2008 7:34:19 PM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
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To: Technocrat

Hmmmm

I like the sound of that


24 posted on 11/20/2008 7:35:43 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your power dry, folks)
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To: freedumb2003
BUMP!

For comments later...

25 posted on 11/20/2008 7:38:06 PM PST by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Is there any fiscal sanity anywhere in this country?

No.

Look no further than the Federal mismanagement and Federal debt stretching out to the center of our galaxy.

26 posted on 11/20/2008 7:41:08 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: freedumb2003
Many of us are voting with our feet. I am taking my considerable salary (tax revenue to government types) from California to Texas.

I picked up the family and the business and moved us from Cali to Texas three years ago. Best move I ever made. And I'm a Cali native, sad to say.

On that same note, I read an article some months back, where over a thousand corporate CEOs who were looking to move, were asked to rate the 50 states between Most Desirable, and Least Desirable (for relocating their businesses to).

Not surprisingly, Texas was #1, while California polled dead last at #50.

27 posted on 11/20/2008 7:45:17 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Texas Eagle

“After all, there’s virtual unanimty that we’re in deep you-know-what.

I believe the word you are looking for is “Schwarzenegger”.

Ha! Well said!


28 posted on 11/20/2008 7:50:33 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Our government is an edifice of artifice.)
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To: NormsRevenge
So what will the legislature do? Implement Global Warming initiatives, pass higher taxes, and find ways to spend money they don't have.
29 posted on 11/20/2008 8:35:00 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: freedumb2003
I think there is a website somewhere that lists the tax bases for different states.

If you find it...will you be so kind as to ping me? Or FRmail it to me? Thanks!

30 posted on 11/20/2008 9:19:50 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

One block from where we stay in CA, there is a primary school. Each morning five big buses pull up and disgorge a lot of hispanic kids from the poor neighborhood into a white district school. Most of them are illegals or anchor babies. More than half the staff of the school deals with their problems..the rest try to educate the balance.
Sooner or later CA will wake up to the fact that they are going broke running a welfare state with open borders.


31 posted on 11/20/2008 9:37:55 PM PST by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: Oldexpat

Jersey is the same, although we keep the underclass, whether native ghetto or immigrant, segregated in the decaying urban centers and mill towns. This is why even the latte liberals oppose school choice, as it means the Crips will be coming to their “blue ribbon public schools.”


32 posted on 11/20/2008 9:40:54 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: freedumb2003

Okies, it’s time to return home.


33 posted on 11/20/2008 9:45:54 PM PST by Defiant (I for one welcome our new Obama Overlords.)
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