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Norway chooses American fighter plane over Swedish competitor
Dagbladet ^ | November 20th, 2008 | KRISTOFFER EGEBERG

Posted on 11/20/2008 8:07:30 AM PST by Eurotwit

The Norwegian government has decided to replace the aging fleet of F-16's with American F-35 fighters, according to a press release from the Prime Ministers office.

JSF is assessed to be better than the Gripen within all the main tasks:

- Intelligence gathering and surveillance. - air to air combat - air to ground and sea surface

(Excerpt) Read more at dagbladet.no ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f35; jsf; norway
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This is a major breaking news story over here at the moment. The government will hold a press conference in half an hour.

Is it a good choice? I have heard there might be trouble with the program. Even that Obama might cancel it...

Anyhow, I am in principle happy we are buying American, and not Swedish :-)

1 posted on 11/20/2008 8:07:30 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

I don’t know enough to comment on the quality of the plane, but considering how my Norwegian and Danish friends make fun of the Swedes, I’m not surprised the Norwegians bought American. : )


2 posted on 11/20/2008 8:10:26 AM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: Eurotwit

Swedes make some nice fighters. I doubt Obama will cancel it but who knows. I am sure it is a pretty good plane but the Russkis’ have some pretty nice fighters too.

Norway is a good friend and ally. One of my best friends is Norge-American. He is a very funny guy.


3 posted on 11/20/2008 8:10:56 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Eurotwit

There’s a Swedish fighter?


4 posted on 11/20/2008 8:11:34 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Saab?


5 posted on 11/20/2008 8:13:12 AM PST by rom (Voted for Ron Paul in the primary. Voted against Obama in the general and FOR Palin.)
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To: Eurotwit
Are they seriously comparing the Swedish fighter jet to the F-35? The F-35 is a decade ahead of any other fighter plane in the world with the exception of the F-22.
6 posted on 11/20/2008 8:15:09 AM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: Eurotwit

Smart choice. The Gripen was developed in the late 80s as a replacement for the Viggen. Not really a new bird and doesn’t have near the capabilities of the F-35 IMHO.


7 posted on 11/20/2008 8:16:00 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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If you like the F-16, you'll love the F-35 Lightning II.

F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) Lightning II

JSF is a joint, multinational acquisition program for the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, and eight cooperative international partners. Expected to be the largest military aircraft procurement ever, the stealth, supersonic F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (F-35) will replace a wide range of aging fighter and strike aircraft for the U.S. Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and allied defense forces worldwide. The program’s hallmark is affordability achieved through a high degree of aircraft commonality among three variants: conventional takeoff/landing (CTOL), carrier variant (CV) and short takeoff/vertical landing (STOVL) aircraft. Innovative concepts and advanced technologies will significantly reduce weapon system life-cycle costs while meeting the strike weapon system requirements of military customers. Procurement is planned to continue through 2026 and possibly beyond. JSF aircraft may well stay in service until 2060 or longer.



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8 posted on 11/20/2008 8:16:00 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: radiohead

I am slightly surprised that the socialist left party who is part of the government coalition is going along with this.

I said, in jest before the election that one positive of an Obama victory would be that it would make it more likely that we would go for the American option.

I don’t know too much of the technical capabilities and such, but I know that the Norwegian air force itself have been fighting for the American option.

This is a rather huge expenditure, so off course there has also been much discussion of industrial implication etc.

With Russia flexing its muscles in the arctic again, I guess intercepting Russian planes approaching our air space will be an important role.


9 posted on 11/20/2008 8:18:44 AM PST by Eurotwit (WI - CS)
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The JSF is one year away from full production. The big money has already been spent and it’s time to reap the benefits. Braaak would never cancel it.


10 posted on 11/20/2008 8:21:05 AM PST by MarineBrat (You can only find truth with logic if you have already found truth without it.)
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To: jveritas

Initially the JSF, the Swedish Gripen, the Eurofighter and the French Rafale were all considered.


11 posted on 11/20/2008 8:22:37 AM PST by Eurotwit (WI - CS)
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F35 vs. Gripen?

No contest!


12 posted on 11/20/2008 8:23:34 AM PST by gridlock (Bill Clinton will be offered the job as Obama's Secretary of State.)
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Gripen

No Stealth to speak of. Look at all those external weapons and stores. Look at the canard.
The thing probably has a radar return as big as a (steel) house!

13 posted on 11/20/2008 8:29:38 AM PST by gridlock (Bill Clinton will be offered the job as Obama's Secretary of State.)
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To: Eurotwit
Does anyone know why NATO allies aren't trusted with the F-22? I'm not convinced by the JSF's capabilities when used without the F-2 in a defensive role. It's the station wagon of the air.

The Raptor would probably have been perfect for us.

14 posted on 11/20/2008 9:03:32 AM PST by ProudNorseman
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To: gridlock

“...The thing probably has a radar return as big as a (steel) house!...”

Yeah, but it is a cool looking machine.

;-)


15 posted on 11/20/2008 9:13:09 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: ProudNorseman

We are afraid of spies learning about its details
and especially reverse engineering its software.


16 posted on 11/20/2008 9:18:37 AM PST by rahbert
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To: Eurotwit

I’ll have to poll my relatives in Hagen Sortland for their opinion.


17 posted on 11/20/2008 9:19:09 AM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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F35 vs. Gripen? No contest!

Okay but I'll take the Swedes when it comes to chainsaws!!

Husqvarna or Stihl >> any American chainsaw.

18 posted on 11/20/2008 9:24:36 AM PST by CommerceComet
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Swedish fighter????

Isn't that a contradiction of terms?

-llevrok, son of a Dane

19 posted on 11/20/2008 9:25:05 AM PST by llevrok (I missed doing drugs in the '60's but won't in my 60's)
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There is an F-35?? Is it in service? Will it ever be in service? By the time it gets to service, assuming it actually does, will it be so heavy then that it no longer meets any of its performance goals?
20 posted on 11/20/2008 9:28:58 AM PST by GBA
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