Posted on 11/16/2008 6:58:39 PM PST by EternalVigilance
When the Watergate burglars bungled their 1972 caper to steal documents from the Democratic National Committee, the initial reaction of the Nixon administration to suggestions that it was somehow also involved was: garbage. Turns out it wasnt garbage: it was truth and resignation igniter fluid.
When the Drudge Report first broke the story that a White House intern - Monica Lewinsky - had been illicitly involved with the president, then William Jefferson Clinton, the Clinton administrations initial response was that the story was: garbage.
Indeed, an independent prosecutor was appointed and a grand jury empanelled. When White House Deputy Chief of Staff John Podesta was called in June 1998 to testify before the grand jury looking into the issue of Clintons extreme mentoring of the female intern, his lawyer assured everyone that Podestas grand jury testimony (i.e., a statement given under oath and upon penalty of perjury) fully supported the presidents forceful denials of any improper conduct. And yes, Virginia, this is the same John Podesta who now heads up BH Obamas transition team how insightful of you.
Turns out the Lewinsky story and Clintons false testimony relating to it wasnt garbage either, but instead, impeachment material.
Now, faced with multiple lawsuits on various fronts challenging BH Obamas eligibility under the Constitution to hold the office of the president - the most recent one filed in California by former Ambassador and 2000 presidential candidate Dr. Alan Keyes - the flippant pronouncement of BH Obama spokesmen is: garbage.
Ummm anyone see a pattern here? Any cause and effect link between big problem for politician and the reflexive labeling of the problem by his sycophants as garbage?
The simplest way for BH Obama to disprove the claim that he is not a natural born Citizen as required by the Constitution would be for him to authorize full and complete disclosure of his actual birth records - not just doctored images on a website - and wherever they may be located, to allow their examination by independent experts, not just reporters for a mainstream media whose pronouncements on the matter up to now have been - let us be polite here - somewhat less than objective.
Thus far, he has adamantly refused to do so and a once-vigilant, but now subservient MSM has refused to even suggest that he do otherwise. What the heck does he have to hide? And they wonder why the lawsuits keep coming?
In reality, given BH Obamas long and close historical links to radicals, America-haters and corrupt influence peddlers, it is surprising that his spokesmen dont use more graphic and earthy descriptions of these lawsuits, which after all strike at the very core of his constitutional qualification to be sworn in as president: is he a natural born Citizen?
This is an abundantly fair question, pejorative labels of garbage aside: America deserves to know.
The Electoral College does not convene until December 15, 2008, so there is still time to clean up any detritus still littering the political landscape
but only if there is the judicial and Fourth Estate backbone to do so.
Riots don’t win popular support. Bring it on. Best thing this Nation could see. Back in the 60s we used to hear about Communism being like a slow warming pot of water that the frog never realizes is coming to a boil. America thinks Barak is a good thing. By the time they wake up he has all power in place
Hannity’s now the Republican standard of truth and manly courage? ROFL...
Since when do you need a self-promoting squishy pundit to do your thinking for you, Reagan Man?
Law? We live in times where lawyers “prove” that black is white and white is black....
“Riots dont win popular support. “
Interesting comment.
You may be right. I just think of the MSM stoking the fires of anger and rioting and trying to keep the stuff hitting the fan.
Surely, there must be someome whos was in that hospital
room, delivery room etc., who can testify under oath
that BHO was delivered in thst plsce at that time.
The greater the riots the stronger the move to the right in the 60s. Nixon BLEW it with Watergate.
Since when have you and the good Doctor become conspiracy theorists?
the MSM will take the first blows if a riot comes to my town, any one that looks like the press is primary target with any brave rioters.
What would be the worst is if Obama is not eligible and nothing is done about it. Then who would be in charge of which parts of the constitution we should ignore and which parts are enforced?
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Obama is unfortunately not a natural born citizen of the USA. Will anything be done about it? I doubt it. Who would do it. Does the phrase “there is no controlling authority” sound familiar. The Supreme court won't want to touch this with a ten foot pole, although they have apparently (according to some sources) ordered Obama to produce it. Some sources say this is an urban legend.
If Obama is declared ineligible before Dec 15 then the electoral college could elect anybody they want, even someone that didn't run. I would suspect however that they would elect Hillary in this situation and then most Democrats will still be happy, but I think that would really hurt black loyalty to the Democratic party. The Democrats would try to blame it on Republicans but there are no Republican fingerprints on this, this has all the marking of a Clinton plot and Obama will know it for that.
Riots? You betcha!
I am not sure that Mr. Obama is even a citizen but I would rather see him serve than go through all this country will have to go through to in order to live by the Constitution. The sad thing is that Mr. Obama knows it and is doing his best with the help of the MSM to hide it until after electoral college votes. Once he is president who is going to throw him out. If Mr. Obama is not a citizen, and I don't think he is, it is only because of a technicality. If his mother would have filled out some paperwork after his return from Indonesia then there would likely not be a problem, unless he were born in Kenya which many people believe. Since he was a citizen of Indonesia he would have had to renounce that citizenship prior to his 18th birthday, this was apparently never done even though he may have been eligible to do so. So, will the Supremes let a little piece of Paper that our poor unsuspecting minor child did not even know about keep him from being president. If not what will keep others who are not natural born from trying the same thing? They will say, if I could have I would have been born here. Isn't that good enough?
It's gonna be a bad day for the constitution.
Your discernment is seriously slipping. Since when is it a "conspiracy theory" to simply demand that the Constitution be adhered to?
Its not an issue with serious followers of American politics. If Obama wasn’t a US citizen, it would have come out early on. Back in 2004 your buddy, DrKeyes, ran against Obama for the Senate. He presented no evidence back then and he offers none today to back up his assertion. I wish there was solid proof, however. This has nothing to do with the Constitution. IMO, its a bunch of sour grapes.
We don’t have to prove anything. It is Obama who must prove that he is capable of serving as President, constitutionally.
The courts have already ruled he’s constitutionally eligible to be POTUS.
The silence from the MSM about this issue seems unusual.
If anything, one would think they would bring it up just to show how “nutty” folks on the ‘net can be. The fact that is is never mentioned is so very interesting.
Suggests to me that they are afraid there might be some “there, there”, and do not want to touch the subject with a ten foot pole.
But, what do I know, for I am just one of those “right-wing conspirators” in their eyes.
I wish there was solid proof, however.
There is. Release the CoLB. Don't just say that is is there...Don't just dismiss those that question its existence...RELEASE it.
I ask you: Why would one not release these records? Why? If you were faced with the same circumstances, what would you do?
Oh really? Can you cite the case, and show us the corroborating evidence Obama produced to prove he is a natural born citizen and never lost that citizenship due to being given Indonesian citizenship?
I was under the distinct impression that no court had ruled on this as yet, due to the fact that no one seems to have standing, according to the courts.
Do you have a link for that? Somehow, I managed to miss that ruling.
Back in late October, a federal judge by the name of R. Barclay Surrick dismissed Berg's lawsuit challenging Obama’s qualifications to be president. It was appealed to the SCOTUS. In the end, it will be thrown out. Berg can then file a Freedom of Information Act request and take it from there. I guarantee you, its a dead end road.
LMAO
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