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Wisconsin gun sales skyrocket after Obama elected
The Dubuque Telegraph Herald / The Associated Press ^ | November 16, 2008

Posted on 11/16/2008 1:44:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Wisconsin firearms enthusiasts seem to be anticipating possible new restrictions on guns with Democrats taking control of the federal government.

Handgun purchases in Wisconsin rose 82 percent in the days before and after Barack Obama's election as president compared with the same 13 days in November last year, according to a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel analysis of state background checks.

Tom Smith, of Eagle, said he purchased two handguns, a .22-caliber snub nose and a .45-caliber semiautomatic, before the_election when it became clear Obama would win.

"I bought them because I was afraid they were going to be outlawed...," Smith said.

Gun owners also are worried that Obama might push for tax increases on ammunition and gun accessories.

"I went out and stocked up on ammo. I bought 20 cases of rifle ammunition," Kyle Troeger, of Muskego, said.

Calls for background checks that are required for the purchase of handguns have flooded the state agency. In the first 13 days of_the month, 2,642 background checks were requested. During the same 13 days last November, the number was 1,453, state Justice Department spokesman Bill Cosh said.

Where gun issues are in Obama's priorities is unclear, since the national campaign was dominated by issues involving the economy, energy and national security.

Obama's Web site says: "The Second_Amendment creates an individual right, and he respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms. He will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport and use guns."

Sean Eaton, owner of Fletcher Arms in Waukesha, said his handgun sales have increased 30 percent to 40 percent. The rush started in the days before the election and it has not slowed down, he said.

Eaton calls Obama and Vice_President-elect Joe Biden the "most_anti-gun people ever to be in the White House."

(Excerpt) Read more at thonline.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bho2008; congress; democrat; democrats; election; firearms; guns; gunsales; obama; presidentelectobama; rtkba; secondamendment; wisconsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Still plenty of ammo available at Carter’s Country and Academy stores here in Texas, at least the last time I checked (Saturday).


61 posted on 11/16/2008 3:24:14 PM PST by 38special (I mean come on.)
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To: mrsmel
I’m not sure that I would be advertising the fact, using my real name and all, that I was purchasing weapons

You really have no choice considering the fact you have to produce ID at time of purchase.........

62 posted on 11/16/2008 3:25:31 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (soon to be pushed over the line. Payback is going to be a bitch......)
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To: randomhero97
“I have wondered if the same increase in sales happened when clinton was elected?”

No. Bubba may be a bum, but he's different than the outright Marxist traitor that Obambi is. Well, maybe, but Obama is the end of America and Western civilization and maybe the world.

Sorry to sound so apocalyptic and “paranoid”.

63 posted on 11/16/2008 3:31:59 PM PST by garyhope (Barack Hussein Obambi, Marxist traitor and the end of America and Western civilization)
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To: 2111USMC

After a day at the range my son went on line and found a couple of butt pads too. Seems his shoulder has some bruises.
I have a mini 14 and it shoots like a breeze. More Expensive though.


64 posted on 11/16/2008 3:33:13 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: mrsmel

All the weapons I own were either handed down from my Father (1914 Mauser pistol and a M1911A1 45) or purchased more than 25 years ago. I will not leave a paper trail buying a new weapon. I will become the owner of a 12ga shotgun before Christmas (internal family trade).


65 posted on 11/16/2008 3:33:48 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Was at the Fort Worth, Texas gun show this afternoon. Place was jammed. Much more than the last time I was there, pre Obambi.

Sales up, prices up. Good business to be in now.

Gonna be an interesting few coming years. Hope we survive them.


66 posted on 11/16/2008 3:35:35 PM PST by garyhope (Barack Hussein Obambi, Marxist traitor and the end of America and Western civilization)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Well, depending on where you buy from...


67 posted on 11/16/2008 3:36:44 PM PST by mrsmel (That one is not my president.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

That, and buy from individuals whom you know well.


68 posted on 11/16/2008 3:37:36 PM PST by mrsmel (That one is not my president.)
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To: All

AUSTRALIA:
The Results Are In

The following is a synopsis of an interview conducted by Ginny Simone with Keith Tidswell of Australia’s Sporting Shooters Association. The entire interview is available as “Surprise, Surprise” in the “Archive News” section of:

http://www.nralive.com/

One year after gun-owners were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, including semi-automatic .22 rifles and shotguns, a program costing the government over 500 million dollars, the results are in...

A dramatic increase in criminal activity has been experienced. Gun control advocates respond “Just wait... we’ll be safer... you’ll see...”.

OBSERVABLE FACT, AFTER 12 MONTHS OF DATA:

* Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2%
* Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6%
* Australia-wide, armed-robberies are up 44% (yes, FORTY-FOUR PERCENT)
* In the state of Victoria, homicides-with-firearms are up 300%
* Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in homicides-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months)
* Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in armed-robbery-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months)
* There has been a dramatic increase in breakins-and-assaults-of- the-elderly
* At the time of the ban, the Prime Minister said “self-defense is not a reason for owning a firearm”
* From 1910 to present, homicides in Australia had averaged about 1.8-per-100,000 or lower, a safe society by any standard.
* The ban has destroyed Australia’s standings in some international sport shooting competitions
* The membership of the Australian Sports Shooting Association has risen to 112,000, a 200% increase, in response to the ban and as an attempt to organize against further controls, which are expected.


69 posted on 11/16/2008 3:45:20 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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To: All

Gun Control in Australia -— Chaos Down Under

Miguel A. Faria, Jr., MD

Last August, the rugged Aussie survivalist whose real life exploits inspired the “Crocodile Dundee” movies died in what then appeared to be a mysterious shootout with Australian police. A police sergeant was also killed in the incident. It was reported that Rodney William Ansell, the 44-year-old, blond haired Aussie, resembled uncannily Paul Hogan the actor who played his part in the movie and the sequel. Although Ansell was no angel and had had previous run-ins with police, he had been named 1988 Australian Northern Territory Man of the Year for inspiring the movie and putting “the Australian Outback on the map.”

What motivated this shooting? In 1996, Australia adopted draconian gun control laws banning certain guns (60 percent of all firearms), requiring registration of all firearms and licensing of all gun owners. “Crocodile Dundee” believed the police were coming to confiscate his unregistered firearms. In Australia today, police can enter your house and search for guns, copy the hard drive of your computer, seize records, and do it all without a search warrant. It’s the law that police can go door to door searching for weapons that have not been surrendered in their much publicized gun buy back program. They have been using previous registration and firearm license lists to check for lapses and confiscate non-surrendered firearms.

The problem began with the Port Arthur (a Tasmanian resort) tragedy on April 28, 1996, when a crazed assailant opened fire and shot 35 people. Australians were shocked and the government reacted quickly. Draconian gun legislation was passed in the heat of the moment. There are three major political parties in Australia: the center right (Liberal Party), the socialist camp (Labor Party), and the ultra left (Australian Democratic Party) -— which tilted the balance of power toward stringent gun control at the expense of freedom.

As a result of the ban, all semiautomatic firearms (rifles and handguns) are proscribed, including .22 caliber rabbit guns and duck-hunting Remington shotguns.

Writing in The Gun Owners (Jan. 31, 2000), the newsletter for Gun Owners of America (GOA), former California State Senator H.L. Richardson writes: “They outlawed every semi-auto, even those pretty duck guns, the Browning A5 and the Remington 1100s. They even struck down pump shotguns: the Winchester model 12 and the Remington 870...Do you own a Browning BAR rifle? Banned. How about a Winchester Model 100? Out of luck, all semi-auto hunting rifles were outlawed as well. They didn’t miss a one.”

Be that as it may, at a cost of $500 million, out of an estimated 7 million firearms (of which 2.8 million were prohibited), only 640,000 guns were surrendered to police. What has been the result? Same as in England. Like in Great Britain, crime Down Under has escalated. Twelve months after the law was implemented in 1997, there has been a 44 percent increase in armed robberies; an 8.6 percent increase in aggravated assaults; and, a 3.2 percent increase in homicides. That same year in the state of Victoria, there was a 300 percent increase in homicides committed with firearms. The following year, robberies increased almost 60 percent in South Australia. By 1999, assaults had increased in New South Wales by almost 20 percent.

Two years after the ban, there have been further increases in crime: armed robberies by 73 percent; unarmed robberies by 28 percent; kidnappings by 38 percent; assaults by 17 percent; manslaughter by 29 percent, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

And consider the fact that over the previous 25-year period, Australia had shown a steady decrease both in homicide with firearms and armed robbery -— until the ban.

Australia, a semi-arid, isolated continent, and a vast nation-state, in many ways parallels the history of the United States. In the 1850s and 1860s, it had gold rushes and pioneering settlers, reminiscent of our own western migration. In World War I and World War II, it fought with the allies. Australia remained a subject of Great Britain until 1986, when the last ties with the British crown were dissolved. With only 19 million people, Australia has an impressive fauna that includes plenty of varmints, marsupials, dingoes (that wreak havoc on livestock), as well as large rats and other rodents. Yet, hunting has become prohibitively difficult for all but a handful of Australians with private lands and the usual connections. Now, the ban on firearms and the disarmament of ordinary Australians has left criminals free to roam the countryside as they please. Bandits, of course, kept their guns. Like in America, only the law-abiding, by definition, obey the law. Yet, the leftist Australian government has responded by passing more laws; in 1998 Bowie knives and other knives and items including handcuffs were banned.

Licensing is difficult. Self and family protection is not considered a valid reason to own a firearm. The right to self-defense, like in Great Britain and Canada, is not recognized in Australia, Like Americans, Australians loved and possessed firearms -— that is until the ban. Freedom has been extinguished. A way of life has ended. Please, don’t tell me it cannot happen here!


70 posted on 11/16/2008 3:48:31 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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To: calex59

Thanks for the info.


71 posted on 11/16/2008 3:55:12 PM PST by austingirl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s strange: yes gun sales are up everywhere, but it seems they are up much more in the “blue” states. I’m wondering why they voted for Hussein?


72 posted on 11/16/2008 4:08:15 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (In Memory of Liberty and Freedom - July 4, 1776 - November 4, 2008)
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To: Misterioso
How many additional firearms are required to match the increased threat of confiscation?

Before confiscation there will be extreme taxation. Look at the playbook of the tobacco nazis.........

Folks are purchasing firearms now while they are still available at market prices without the anticipated increase in taxes. Once the confiscatory phase begins (If there is one), there will be a nationwide black market on firearms and any firearms purchased today will bring a profit.

Any attempt at confiscation will be met with either denial or force. Me, all my firearms were lost last month while I was fishing and my boat tipped over..........

Supply and demand my friend........

73 posted on 11/16/2008 4:26:51 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (soon to be pushed over the line. Payback is going to be a bitch......)
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To: mrsmel
Well, depending on where you buy from...

You want to expound on that? To purchase from a firearms dealer you must show legal ID no matter where you live.

74 posted on 11/16/2008 4:44:07 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (soon to be pushed over the line. Payback is going to be a bitch......)
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To: Misterioso
the increased threat of confiscation?

Now, if you believe that confiscation is a figment of one's imagination then educate yourself by googling "California" and "Colt Sporter".........

75 posted on 11/16/2008 4:49:10 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (soon to be pushed over the line. Payback is going to be a bitch......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I think we’re talking past each other. Maybe it’s my fault. I don’t know why people, IF they are new to gun ownership, are so suddenly concerned about confiscation. The issue is not new—it’s been a threat for years. I personally do not believe it is possible to disarm this country. And if guns are soon to be difficult to purchase, I’ve got plenty of extras to sell for those short-sighted citizens who can afford them. The black market is what will stand in the way of the JBT’s, not to mention hollow points.


76 posted on 11/16/2008 5:19:50 PM PST by Misterioso ( "Socialism is an ideology. Capitalism is a natural phenomenon.")
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To: Misterioso
I think we’re talking past each other. Maybe it’s my fault.

No apology necessary, we were both on the same track but different rail.........and you are absolutely right.

77 posted on 11/16/2008 5:27:42 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (soon to be pushed over the line. Payback is going to be a bitch......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Certainly-I mean if you buy from private individuals whom you know, or from family (with family, many times you don’t even have to buy,LOL)


78 posted on 11/16/2008 5:53:38 PM PST by mrsmel (That one is not my president.)
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To: JaneNC
Then why did Wisconsin vote BO?

Because this state is controlled by the liberals in Milwaukee and Madison. The rest of the state is fairly conservative.

79 posted on 11/16/2008 6:40:56 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: MarkeyD

why should these people advertise what they have?.....geesh....


80 posted on 11/17/2008 2:14:39 AM PST by cherry
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