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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

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To: Kenny

Yeah, I love how the media was so excited over a black candidate that they couldn’t report straight yet totally rejected and ignored Alan Keyes who, by the way, is much blacker than Obama.

Even conservatives could not get behind this wacko. Really a better example is somebody like Maryland’s African American population dissing our future RNC candidate Michael Steele.


721 posted on 11/15/2008 2:12:46 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: MississippiMan
I'm absolutely convinced that we have the most stupendous example imaginable of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Or to put it more accurately, what the right hand is NOT doing. It's nobody's official job to see the proof of citizenship, so it just doesn't get seen. It's nobody's job to say, "Hey, we couldn't clear this guy to work as a receptionist at many government facilities," so it doesn't get said.

The usual vetting process was voided because of the risk being called racist, yet he is still 50% WHITE, go figure. I am sure his previous career path has lot of affirmative actions involved also!!!

722 posted on 11/15/2008 2:14:20 PM PST by danamco
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To: napscoordinator
The Republicans who are doing this seem to think that if Obama is found unqualified to hold the Presidency that somehow McCain will win but that is not true.

I believe the DNC makes the choice. The democrats have won the election which isn't in dispute, the issue is the legality of Obama's eligibility to hold office.

Clinton/Biden would be bad but it would be legal. More important it might lead to a solid vetting process that prevents this situation in the future.
723 posted on 11/15/2008 2:14:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: little jeremiah

When did I ever call you, or anyone else, a name? Please provide examples if you wish to accuse me. I try to be civil and polite in my posts at all times.

Claiming that Malcom X is Obama’s father, is, to me, beyond reasonable. The only explanation for this claim that I can find is a physical resemblance and some eugenic descriptions of Kenyans.

The term “jumping the shark” is not a personal insult; it refers to a situation that is sensational, if a bit far fetched.

I disagree with you. I would hope that this disagreement makes me simply wrong in your eyes, not an enemy.


724 posted on 11/15/2008 2:16:20 PM PST by pa mom
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To: Polarik

Oh, I have no doubt Malcom X was a mentor and an intellectual influence. But that’s a far cry from a secret father.


725 posted on 11/15/2008 2:17:13 PM PST by pa mom
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To: cripplecreek

Clinton/Biden would be bad but it would be legal. More important it might lead to a solid vetting process that prevents this situation in the future.

That is true. With all of our illegals around the country, it might just be the best thing to get this straightened out.


726 posted on 11/15/2008 2:17:31 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: jetson

What I don’t understand is that those who don’t buy this have to be “dense”. I have read the evidence and it doesn’t stand up in my mind. I don’t think you are dense or nuts for believing it, however.


727 posted on 11/15/2008 2:19:10 PM PST by pa mom
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To: Windflier

From the judge’s decision in the Virginia Writ of Mandamus request case challenging Obama’s eligibiliy to be president: The most relevant passage: “The Certification of Live Birth establishes that Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen.

The affidavit of the State Health Director states that the information on the COLB is identical to the information on the “vault” copy of the birth certificate, and that both documents establish that Mr. Obama was born in Honolulu. The Court noted that the COLB is valid for all citizenship purposes. The court noted our argument that the COLB is not valid for determining citizenship, but referred us to Hawaiian law that states otherwise. “There is no difference between a certificate and a certification of live birth in the eyes of the state. For instance, either can be used to confirm U.S. citizenship to obtain a passport or state ID.” The court found that Hawaiian law makes the COLB valid for all purposes with the exception of determining native Hawaiian heritage for certain state and federal benefits. The court held that if Mr. Obama were born elsewhere and the birth registered in Hawaii, the “place of birth” line on the COLB would reflect that fact. The court stated that there could be no doubt that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii and that any argument to the contrary was fanciful and relied on completely unsubstantiated internet rumors.”
http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/archives/218


728 posted on 11/15/2008 2:19:53 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jetson
US Law very clearly stipulates: ".If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

I believe Mr. Berg says age of 14 (fourteen) plus 5 still does NOT reach the mark!!!

729 posted on 11/15/2008 2:20:19 PM PST by danamco
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To: RetiredArmy
I think it's ridiculous that so many Republicans don't think this is an issue. This is an issue and it's ridiculous that Obama has gotten to where he is now without having shown proof that he qualifies.
730 posted on 11/15/2008 2:22:14 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior
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To: pa mom

“I just think that no matter what the evidence, no matter what the proof, some will insist that Obama is not constitutionally eligible to be president. Maybe not you, but some.”

You act as though the people that don’t believe Obama has a valid certificate are the one’s being obstinate.

The opposite is true. Obama’s people are the one’s who posted a unarguably doctored photo of the certificate, and then started legal maneuvering to avoid anyone viewing the original.

We have every reason to believe he’s lying, and most of us only ask to see the document that the constitution requires in order to make him president.

These facts are evident to one who reads the posts about which they are talking.


731 posted on 11/15/2008 2:23:49 PM PST by bluescape (The American media, The guard dog that holds you down while the attacker has his way.)
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To: little jeremiah; Chief Engineer

Chief engineer did a lot of searches on that address. Not one of them was connected to the Dunhams or Obamas. No one has seen a microfiche of that announcement. It is just a photo copy with some type remarked up.


732 posted on 11/15/2008 2:24:09 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: napscoordinator
With all of our illegals around the country, it might just be the best thing to get this straightened out.

Roger Calero is a resident alien and was the socialist candidate on several state's ballots for his second run at the presidency. The fact that we're heading down this path makes me nervous and I don't want to wait till George Soros shows up at the supreme court demanding his "right" to run and citing the Obama presidency as precedent. (if it's found that Obama isn't native born)
733 posted on 11/15/2008 2:25:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: El Gato

“Actually I think the court would require a certified copy, with the raised state seal, of it would be required. The web image would not suffice.”


The raised Seal is visible on the copy of the COLB available at the factcheck.org web site. That along with the sworn affidavit of the Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics, Alvin T. Onaka, whose name is actually on Obama’s short form Certificate should suffice.
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_7.jpg


734 posted on 11/15/2008 2:26:50 PM PST by jamese777
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

“I’m unaccountable and you’re not.” Barak H. Obama
________________

Please provide a citation, preferably a link, for this direct quote.


735 posted on 11/15/2008 2:27:22 PM PST by awake-n-angry
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To: cripplecreek

God help this country. The slide down the slippery slope is about complete don’t you think....


736 posted on 11/15/2008 2:28:01 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: bluescape

My point is that SOME will think any evidence presented is falsified. Don’t you agree with that? There is a lot of understandable animosity to Obama, and some of that is going to latch onto a reasonable inquiry and turn it into a conspiracy.


737 posted on 11/15/2008 2:28:09 PM PST by pa mom
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To: bluescape

I don’t think the certificate is “unarguably doctored”. I can see the raised seal, so unless the state or employees of the state were in on the fabrication, I think it is real for now.


738 posted on 11/15/2008 2:29:45 PM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom
You can be a citizen even if your parents are not. My grandmother’s parents were born in Europe, but she was born here and therefore was a citizen.

She was a "Natural" born, your grannies were "Naturalized." BIG difference in th Constitution!!!

739 posted on 11/15/2008 2:30:13 PM PST by danamco
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To: solfour
it's way above his pay grade
740 posted on 11/15/2008 2:31:43 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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