Posted on 11/14/2008 5:36:26 AM PST by shortstop
Frankly, I dont give a damn about the Republican Party.
When a pair of shoes is worn out, I throw them away. If I can resole them, I do. If I cant, they go in the trash. I dont look back, I dont mourn them, I just dump them.
Same for my political party.
If it helps me serve my country, fine. If it doesnt, to hell with it.
Its as simple as that.
And as the Republican Party lies in tatters on the ground, blown to smithereens by a philosophical suicide, it is no surprise that those who claim the right to put the pieces back together again are the very ones who pulled the trigger in the first place.
The Republican Party is dead because its body finally caught up to its soul.
The Republican Party got cancer and died. Its once-healthy heart was infiltrated and overwhelmed by the greed and lust for power of soulless people in positions of great authority. As it made compounding compromises with virtue it went from prom queen to town slut in record time.
It got lost in the woods of principle because it purposefully smashed its compass on a rock.
And the various plans for reconstructing the Republican Party seem written by the same pimps and pirates who destroyed it. The people who made the Republican Party stayed home on Election Day and the infiltrators who put it on the garbage heap claim now to be its caretakers and stewards.
And the Frankenstein of a party they want to cobble back together is nothing more than an impotent junior-Democrat party, not quite as socialist and not quite as oppressive and not quite as anti-American but ultimately altogether as destructive of personal liberty and national character. They want a difference of degree, not of principle. They want to fight over the crumbs of power that fall from the jaws of an all-controlling government.
So to hell with them.
Either the Republican Party comes back closer to its roots, or it comes back without my vote or the votes of tens of millions of Americans just like me.
Americans who believe in individual liberty and self-reliance. Whove actually read the Constitution and know why this country was founded and how it was made great. Americans who are ashamed of the welfare line and resentful of Mr. Obamas redistributive taxes. Americans whove sent generations of sons to defend this country and who today carry the burden of financially supporting it.
Americans who know that the government isnt their mommy or their daddy and that freedom is more important than life, and immeasurably more important than a tax-rebate check or government health care.
The Republican Party can either stand for smaller government, lower taxes and freer people, or it can rot in hell.
The liberals on TV and the liberals in the Republican Party can laugh at that all they want. They can look down their noses at the rest of us all they wish, and theyll keep getting more of what they got on Election Day. Real Republicans didnt lose this election they didnt play this election. They stayed home, or they held their noses and voted for a man they admired but didnt agree with.
Real Republicans gave their money and showed their support during the primary. By the time the general election came around, there was too much piss in the milkshake for them to have much of an appetite.
And to fix that the smart people want to unzip their pants and top it off.
Like I said, I dont give a damn about the Republican Party. My family has been Republican since the election of 1860. We go back to Lincoln. But its never been about partisanship, its always been about patriotism. Ive been a Republican because the Republican Party was good for America, because the Republican Party was a means to an end a tool to defend the principles of American liberty.
And the Republican Party can either get back to that, or it can lie mummified in the pages of the history books.
It can continue its process of morphing into the me-too party, the perpetual lesser of two evils, or it can return to its roots roots that are unashamedly conservative, that are unashamedly American, that are deep in the individualism and exceptionalism and liberty that made this country.
Or, like I said, it can go to hell.
Ive scraped worse stuff off my shoes before, I wont shed any tears over the death of this party. The day it sold out my values and my country on everything from the deficit to illegal immigration to free pills for grama it lost me. We gave the Republican Party the presidency and both houses of Congress, and it gave us the finger.
And now it wants a double dose of the poison that killed it. It wants to reconstruct itself as the antithesis of what it used to be. It wants to reject conservatives and conservatism. So let it. If the Republican bosses want to join the Democrats in making toilet paper of the Constitution, let them.
We dont need them, but sometime and somewhere theyre going to need us.
And thats when well give them the finger.
Like we did last Tuesday.
Bumping to Jupiter
WELL SAID!!!
We don't need to leave the GOP. We need to mold the GOP to our will. We need to find the mechanism to funnel our contributions to conservatives and not the GOP directly. If the amount of the contributions gets big enough they will listen.
The church of Christ is not to be vulnerable to those kinds of opinions. The only opinion that has merit is that of Christ.
I believe you are deluding yourself. How can you deny that the Methodist church is decidedly pro-abortion and pro-homosexual. Besides that, they shill for the Democrat party and socialists and communists.
I don't question where your heart is but they are working against you. I left the ELCA for the exact same reason.
My church must remain faithful to the word of God. My political party is not my church. I would hope that we have a society that reflects the word of God but we don't. I have to settle for the best I can get.
Lonsberry’s conclusions are right about the state of the Republican Party, but he failed to put his finger on the real core reasons for its demise.
You're right, but in order to use that human nature towards self preservation to our benefit we control the purse strings and build a powerful PAC organization. Look at the moveon.org model. It works.
“We gave the Republican Party the presidency and both houses of Congress, and it gave us the finger.”
Yep.
Because we allow it.
McCain supporters and RINOS are just as charming as ever, I see.
But, but we’d lose the votes of Christie Whitman, Bill Weld and Chatsworth Osborne Junior!
Exactly, you see what I'm getting at. The only effective way to do this is outside the GOP through a PAC. Don't give the GOP the money directly, only give it to conservatives with the understanding that we will continue to support them as long as they are conservatives and when they stop being conservatives we will run candidates against them in the primaries. Moveon.org did this and they have taken over the RATS.
Now we need to identify a PAC that would fit our needs, or create one.
No that would be McCain and the reach across the aisle Republicrats you so admire.
One of the stupidest statements on FR. The second we get someone who GETS IT in a post, we have the flaming imbeciles show up who assume that blacks or hispanics are somehow immune to liberty, freedom, values, and smaller government.
Look, Ronald Reagan SOLD the benefits and glories of liberty and smaller government to a whole GENERATION of white middle class voters WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY ASSUMED THAT COMPASSION FOR ISSUES MEANT THROWING GOV'T MONEY AT IT. Many of these people "woke up" to conservative ideology because he showed them and told them and sold them on the idea that big government is neither efficient, nor compassionate, nor in their best interests. This is precisely what is needed in the black and hispanic communities
Black people are not stupid. They have been LIED to.
Hispanics are not stupid. They have been LIED to.
The Cuban community in Miami is overwhelmingly free market, pro-freedom, and pro liberty. Possibly the most articulate spokesman for freedom in America today is Thomas Sowell, a black man. The problem is that many conservatives assume "reaching out" to people means handing out goodies. "Reaching out" simply means that I have experienced the blessings of liberty and I want to share the liberty so you will be blessed, too, rather than giving you the benefits of my liberty. Please learn the difference.
Responses like yours just add fuel to the fire of people assuming all conservatives are racists. Maybe some of them are, I guess.
No
From someone who has been trying to do this, I can speak from experience, and tell you NO it is not easier.
Attempting to push the moderates and liberals (yes, there are some who actually claim to be liberals) to the back of the room, it cannot be done given the existing conditions.
Those moderates and liberals have the numbers and the momentum, and they're not going to give that up.
Much easier to simply join another party.
The RINOrepubs like being in the minority, they like being in the shadows, otherwise those mean MSMer’s make there life miserable.
You are wrong about the UMC. It is decidedly against homosexuality, and it’s rules specifically state that homosexuality is INCOMPATIBLE with Christian teaching. Homosexuals are not to be ordained, married, or unioned.
It is now a rape/incest/life of mother position on life after years of struggling in that direction. It rejects any abortion for convenience, partial birth abortion, or born-alive abortion. What remains is turning it fully in the direction of life.
So far as the NCC is concerned, the NCC is dying due to lack of interest.
Of far greater interest are the conferences in Asia and Africa who are decidedly liberal, and who are exploding with evangelism, and who are turning the US UMC on its ear.
Having been an ELCA, you see us in terms of your struggle, and I sympathize with you on that, but our church is going a different path than has the ELCA and the PCUSA.
The bottom line is calling. That is an individual subject, and you’ll just have to trust me on this one. God calls me to remain, and I remain. AS SOON AS God says, “I’m removing their candlestick!” then I’m out of here. All you can do is trust me on that one.
I am no longer interested in funding someone who promises to consider my viewpoints. I want his viewpoints to be conservative as a condition of belonging to his party.
The pac you envision might obtain verbal assent, but it won’t be an assent of the heart.
As all the pundits on TV are saying about Obama, now that he’s in he gets to choose a more moderate or more radical liberalism. He was financed by the radical liberals, and the groundwork is being laid to tell them to take a hike.
Just exactly what do you think a PAC is, if it isn't a political party?
Grow a PAC big enough, and it becomes a political party.
It is underway right now.
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