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CIA Agents Confirm: Al Queda WAS In Iraq in Before Invasion
Flopping Aces ^ | Nov 13, 2008 | Scott

Posted on 11/13/2008 9:30:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Eclipsed by the election campaignining, this story slipped under the radar. Much has been said about the invasion of Iraq. Often there are claims that there were no weapons of mass destruction and no ties to Al Queda. In fact, most of the WMD claims that were made before the invasion turned out to be true. Iraq was not clean and innocent in regards to WMD, and the ties to Al Queda were wrongly dismissed.
One of those ties regard Saddam’s involvement with Al Queda groups like Ansar al Islam which no one disputes was present and active in the northern section of Saddam’s Iraq. Opponents of the war dismiss that tie by saying that if they weren’t in the part of Iraq that Saddam controlled, then they weren’t under his control. That’s a nice piece of rhetoric, and it’s good spin, but it’s ignorant of the fact that Ansar was the ONLY means of influence Saddam had in the North (that, and the threat of invading the north). He used Ansar as his proxy guerrilla force to attack his Kurdish enemies and impose his will in the North.

The point remains, Ansar and other Al Queda groups were inside Iraq in 2002, and the CIA knew it. They knew it because they sent extremely brave people there-into Iraq, and those people monitored the Al Queda until the Pentagon blew the opportunity to destroy the camps.

Charles “Sam” Faddis, who led a CIA team into northern Iraq following the 9/11 attacks, says the Pentagon’s “endless planning and delays” foiled a chance to wipe out a band of al Qaeda leaders who were fleeing American bombs in Afghanistan.

Faddis says the delays, beginning in 2002, also facilitated the escape of some “key” al Qaeda figures, including terrorist scientists who were working on chemical and biological weapons.

“Some died, some are still on the run,” Faddis said in a telephone interview Tuesday, following his appearance on NPR’s Diane Rehm Show to promote a new book, Operation Hotel California: The Clandestine War Inside Iraq.

“The site was physically destroyed … but certainly the research wasn’t destroyed.”

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To argue that the Pentagon “botched” this is to argue that there was something substantial to be botched. Admitting the US missed an opportunity to attack Al Queda in Iraq before 2002 is admitting that there was enough of an Al Queda presence in Iraq before the invasion to warrant military action.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeaandsaddam; alqaeda; alqaedainiraq; alqaida; bush; cia; iraq; obama; wot
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To: americanophile
The Bush Administration’s inability to communicate is their single biggest failing if you ask me.

Oh, I don't know. He did a pretty good job communicating his desire to give amnesty to any Mexican illegal alien who came across the border.

Speaking of which, do you really view his inability to communicate as a bigger failure than not securing the borders after the attacks on 9/11?

41 posted on 11/13/2008 10:42:32 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Oh, I don't know. He did a pretty good job communicating his desire to give amnesty to any Mexican illegal alien who came across the border.

Speaking of which, do you really view his inability to communicate as a bigger failure than not securing the borders after the attacks on 9/11?


Painful truth ping!
42 posted on 11/13/2008 10:44:48 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Bookmarked.

I find myself unable to converse on YOUR level of communication.

But I want you to continue posting....
I am just so amazed with YOUR incredible powers of persuasion, and so in awe of YOUR obvious inability to grasp facts, that I find it inconceivable that anyone here would ever doubt YOUR intellect.
YOUR command of the the written word is ...unique.
YOUR powers of capitalism is ...unique.
YOUR understanding of sarcasm is obvious, even before YOUR much anticipated reply.

43 posted on 11/13/2008 10:45:36 PM PST by sarasmom (Buyers Remorse Date : Place your bets ladies and gentlemen.)
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To: Lancey Howard
...either. That's 500 freaking TONS!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the same yellow cake that was under the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) for over a decade?

44 posted on 11/13/2008 10:47:34 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the same yellow cake that was under the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) for over a decade?

LOL, yeah, that agency that Saddam totally deferred to the same way he totally deferred to pedophile Scott Ritter and all those UN inspectors... Sorry for the sarcasm, but keep in mind that Bush and the current Iraqi leadership believed that it was necessary to secretly get the stuff out of Iraq even after Saddam was long gone. That should say something.

FRegards,
LH

45 posted on 11/13/2008 11:02:52 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bookmark


46 posted on 11/13/2008 11:03:58 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

ping


47 posted on 11/13/2008 11:36:43 PM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Bush lied” bump


48 posted on 11/14/2008 12:04:39 AM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

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49 posted on 11/14/2008 1:31:40 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: americanophile
"Agreed. The Bush Administration’s inability to communicate is their single biggest failing if you ask me.>

The same applies on the crucial issue of Saddam's biological & chemical weapons (WMD) (which he used against the Kurds) being trucked into Syria in December of 2002, with the assistance of Putin's weather satellites.

The leftist geared mass media continues lying saying there were 'no WMD in Iraq', when the White House could have countered their lies, but then there was the issue of direct Kremlin involvement, thus nothing was stated to avoid a greater issue (the enemy behind the enemy).

50 posted on 11/14/2008 1:35:45 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Yeah, but it doesn’t matter now...

I hope you'll refrain from saying that to any of our troops who have worked and sacrificed to make Iraq a success, regardless of what the media has portrayed.

51 posted on 11/14/2008 1:40:01 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Lancey Howard

That secrecy crap was really smart, wasn’t it.. It cost Bush his reputation and helped lead the U.S. to electing it’s first Marxist President.


52 posted on 11/14/2008 1:45:19 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Admin Moderator; Lead Moderator; Sidebar Moderator

Can this go in Breaking?


53 posted on 11/14/2008 1:56:43 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

And he had the lives of thousands of our
heroes in his hands every moment of these
last 7 years, God blessedly free of any
homeland attacks, as well as protecting
plans, sources and methods.

Think!

On 2nd thought, why don’t you just be the
president for the WOT, since you know all
the facts behind the scenes, and you’re
apparently perfect.


54 posted on 11/14/2008 2:03:19 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
What so many people don't understand is that we can't be yapping about what is known about WMD right now.

People are quick to criticize President Bush for not divulging ALL about that, but it is for very serious security reasons that he does not.

There are still an awful lot of Americans in the region right now, as well as countless innocent citizens...

I, for one, am very glad our leadership has had the sense and decency to make our security a priority over their own popularity.

I don't see the next guy being that smart OR that considerate.

55 posted on 11/14/2008 3:31:09 AM PST by Allegra
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To: americanophile
We lost the Iraq War public relations battle years ago.

What do you mean "battle"? That implies that there were two sides fighting. It's not a battle when one side lies down and goes to sleep!

56 posted on 11/14/2008 3:46:02 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No story favorable to Bush or unfavorable to Obama slips under the radar. They’re simply ignored.


57 posted on 11/14/2008 5:23:55 AM PST by wny
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To: sarasmom; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Amen Sister: Do you really believe President Bush had any options, power, or controll over the media?

The BDS infection has reduced the IQ of so called conservatives, who have complete denial of the treason of the mediots and their power to lie and fool Americans, to the level of scum sucking bacteria.

58 posted on 11/14/2008 5:50:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Do we trust 0W0N$PENDALOT, Pelo$i, Barnie, Dodd & Reid to leave our 401k's/IRA's alone?)
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To: Allegra
Thanks for your service in Iraq and on target responses to the BDS BS from bacteria posing as conservatives:

People are quick to criticize President Bush for not divulging ALL about that, but it is for very serious security reasons that he does not.

There are still an awful lot of Americans in the region right now, as well as countless innocent citizens...

I, for one, am very glad our leadership has had the sense and decency to make our security a priority over their own popularity.

I don't see the next guy being that smart OR that considerate.

59 posted on 11/14/2008 5:56:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Do we trust 0W0N$PENDALOT, Pelo$i, Barnie, Dodd & Reid to leave our 401k's/IRA's alone?)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Obama’s fault!


60 posted on 11/14/2008 6:01:26 AM PST by buffyt (We can't drive our SUVs, eat as much as we want, keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times.Obama)
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