Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

ENOUGH WITH THE WOE IS ME THREADS
self | 11/13/08 | LS

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:02:22 AM PST by LS

If I see one more "we are doomed" or "we'll never again win an election" thread I'm gonna puke!

ANY reader of American history knows that going back to the 1600s, EVERY generation has faced (yes) a similar challenge, every generation has thought it faced the "end of the colony/state/country.

*John Adams and the Federalists were certain that Thomas Jefferson would destroy the country he helped build, and forge an alliance with that "terrorist" country France.

*Both Thomas Jefferson and Martin Van Buren said that the Missouri Compromise (that would be 1820, for those of you from Rio Linda) was "the death knell of the Union."

*All "men of standing" were certain that Andrew Jackson would destroy the nation---and thought he proved it when he allowed mobs into the White House to guzzle the wine stock while he high-tailed it out back to a nearby bar. Even Davy Crockett---hardly an effete snob---thought Jackson was going to destroy the country.

*EVERY major Republican except Lincoln thought they had permanently destroyed the Democrat Party by 1864. In fact, they had put into place such astonishing obstacles to the Dems EVER getting power that they were stunned when the Dems not only won congressional seats, but had to be swindled out of an election in 1876!

*The only way a Democrat even won the White House for 100 years was to either a) pretend to be a Republican (Cleveland---DINO); or to get the Republicans to fracture into two parties (Wilson in 1912).

*FDR put every obstacle to Republican elections in place from 1932-1944, and STILL couldn't prevent a Republican from being elected president in 1952, and it took a terrible TV debate and some fraud to keep Nixon out in 1960. It wouldn't have taken much, with a President Nixon in 1960, for Republicans to have held power throughout the 1970s.

Lenin took power in Russia with a mere 20,000 committed communists---smaller than my little Ohio township---in a nation of 160 MILLION. Commitment, determination, and above all, having an idea to fight for is the key to victory.

I'm going to end with a Bible story: Gideon was leading the Israelites against an enemy. He had an army of 30,000 and God said, "Too many! Your soldiers aren't all committed. Some are faint hearted, some are grumblers." God gave Gideon a test to eliminate 27,000 men from the ranks. With just 3,000, Gideon got ready to fight and God said, "Too many. There are still too many complainers, nay-sayers, men weak of faith." He gave Gideon another test, leaving Gideon with only 300. Then God said, "You are ready now to go and WIN." And he did.

If you are all through with your little hissy fits and "poor me/we'll never win another election" pity parties, I'm ready to join 299 of you to GO WIN.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho2008; doomed; economy; elections; ilikecheese; obama; vanitypostsyndrome; wearedoomed
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-128 next last
To: beachn4fun
All I’m saying is that even with all the laws on the books to-date, women still have abortions.

This is no cause to be blase about relaxation of the laws, so that more women have more abortions.

41 posted on 11/13/2008 4:52:41 AM PST by Petronski (Things fall apart, it's scientific.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: LS

Hey, this is a vanity!

(In before “already posted”)


42 posted on 11/13/2008 4:52:46 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LS
The anticipation is alway more painful than the actual prick of the needle.

I'm feeling better already.

43 posted on 11/13/2008 4:52:47 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LS

“Fight on, my men . . .
I am hurt, but I am not slain;
I’ll lay me down and bleed a while,
And then I’ll rise and fight again.”


44 posted on 11/13/2008 4:56:36 AM PST by Rockingham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wolfcreek

“The anticipation is alway more painful than the actual prick of the needle.”

Absolutely spot-on. We will recover from this. It was a meteoric rise for Obama, so it will be a calamitous fall for him, because he and the dem Congress will over-reach.


45 posted on 11/13/2008 4:58:21 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Eye of Unk

I saw the exact scenario in my backyard when my cat was about to reach for a tiny mouse who was up on his back legs facing an enemy many, many times his size. I grabbed the cat and rushed her into the house. When I went back outside the mouse was dead, WITHOUT EVEN A MARK ON IT. Shows you what fear can do. Our enemy is not beyond defeating. Read my tagline.


46 posted on 11/13/2008 4:58:22 AM PST by kitkat (THE DAY WE LOSE OUR WILL TO FIGHT IS THE DAY WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Petronski
about relaxation of the laws, so that more women have more abortions.

I'm not being blase about it. My point is - what does the law have to do with whether a woman chooses to have an abortion? If the woman chooses to have one she is going to regardless of the law. If she doesn't believe in abortion then she won't have on regardless of the law. I don't see how that is being blase.

47 posted on 11/13/2008 4:59:55 AM PST by beachn4fun (Let's figure a way out of this mess.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: MikeWUSAF

48 posted on 11/13/2008 5:03:40 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: LS

We’re Doomed to see too many vanities and not enough Opuses, Opi, Opera. Hint, Hint.


49 posted on 11/13/2008 5:04:19 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: beachn4fun
...what does the law have to do with whether a woman chooses to have an abortion?

The difficulty in obtaining one is a deterrent. Some women won't break the law. Some will want to know why the law prohibits abortion and will learn more. Maybe it's simple enough to say that a law protecting the human rights of the unborn can only serve to elevate us all.

If the woman chooses to have one she is going to regardless of the law.

So we've been told by the abortion industry. How does that law apply to other forms of murder? If a person chooses to kill their neighbor, they are going to do it regardless of the law, so why have laws against murder?

Ridiculous.

Plus, as I've said, the instructive nature of laws protecting the unborn: the point of the law is to deter the choice of murder.

50 posted on 11/13/2008 5:08:20 AM PST by Petronski (Things fall apart, it's scientific.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan; All

Lenin was maestro of the cluster-frig. There was little success until Trotsky started the firing squads. Watching the kulaks fall instilled fear in the sheep and allowed the wolves to take control.


51 posted on 11/13/2008 5:08:25 AM PST by fortunate sun (Proud Palinista!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: LS
I respectfully disagree with the effect of your post but not with the basic assumption. The basic assumption, that it is foolish to despair and believe that we will never win another election, borders on the pointless and does not advance our cause and so we should be wary of it. The effect, however, is to diminish the sense of urgency and necessity to endure the pain which is unavoidable if the conservative movement and the Republican Party is in fact ever to win another election.

I point out to you that the whigs have not won an election in quite a while. The progressive party of Bob la Follett no longer exists. Ditto the Prohibition party. The Ku Klux Klan which was such a great force in the South at the time of reconstruction and again after the turn of the century, today has more FBI agents than true believers. So history reveals that it is indeed quite possible for a party or a movement to disappear.

Conservatism is not just a political philosophy but but political philosophy which comes out of a moral philosophy therefore it is less likely to disappear because it will not disappear from human nature. But that does not mean that the philosophy will ever again attain political power.

It is quite appropriate for us doom and gloomers to tell the movement that the glass is half empty and to say that not since the election of FDR in the midst of the Great Depression has fate arrayed a galaxy of forces so heavily against us and I am not excluding the election of 1964. This is the time for real fear of the loss of our liberties and the loss of our philosophy to spur the hard decisions which are necessary for survival. Keep John Boehner in office and count noses at the next election. Fail to put somebody in at the head of the Republican National Committee who is not a bomb thrower, and check the bank balance at the same time. Be prepared to read the Bill of Rights and weep.

I have listened to these damn fools on these very threads tell me how this was going to be a landslide for McCain. Those of us who saw this coming as long as two years ago have earned the right to speak out now. I will continue to speak out and tell conservatives and Republicans about the danger that still confronts us until I see one single step taken to repair our fortunes. So far I look in vain.


52 posted on 11/13/2008 5:13:39 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

I get it.

Obama is the Phantom of the Opera.


53 posted on 11/13/2008 5:15:38 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: quantim

I’ve already got a DON’T BLAME ME I VOTED FOR MCCAIN bumper sticker on my SUV.


54 posted on 11/13/2008 5:20:32 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Obama, you are NOT my President!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: LS

I’m going to end with a Bible story: Gideon was leading the Israelites against an enemy. He had an army of 30,000 and God said, “Too many! Your soldiers aren’t all committed. Some are faint hearted, some are grumblers.” God gave Gideon a test to eliminate 27,000 men from the ranks. With just 3,000, Gideon got ready to fight and God said, “Too many. There are still too many complainers, nay-sayers, men weak of faith.” He gave Gideon another test, leaving Gideon with only 300. Then God said, “You are ready now to go and WIN.” And he did.


Excellent Bible reference. However, if you actually read the account, God’s purpose wasn’t simply to eliminate complainers and nay-sayers. In Judges 7:2 “The LORD said to Gideon, ‘You have too many men for me to deliver Midian into their hands. In order that Israel may not boast against me that her own strength has saved her’”.... God wanted Israel to depend on His strength instead of their own power...He cut Gideon’s force from over 30,000 men to a mere 300 so that Israel would KNOW that God had given the victory. Maybe we could learn the lesson of Gideon by turning to The Lord and trusting in His guidance and power as we look to defend the integrity of the American people and the vision that began our great nation.


55 posted on 11/13/2008 5:22:50 AM PST by RenegadeNC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nathanbedford

“I will continue to speak out and tell conservatives and Republicans about the danger that still confronts us until I see one single step taken to repair our fortunes.”


Which is exactly what got Obama elected.

It is not the job of government to repair our fortunes.


56 posted on 11/13/2008 5:23:04 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: LS

I wish I shared your optimism. Short term, I see some swing of the pendulum back our way. This country is still more to the center than this election might lead us to believe and I also expect some buyers remorse at having handed so much power to not just the dems, but the far left loons.

Long term, I see far too much bleeding blue due to the ever increasing Latino vote. Anchor babies are coming of voting age and I expect some large number of new citizens under an Obama admin. Even downplaying this, demographics is still a big hit against the republicans.


57 posted on 11/13/2008 5:31:15 AM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RenegadeNC

Right you are, and good point. I didn’t want to get “too relibious.” Every time I bring up the Israelites in Goshen, when all of Egypt was in darkness but they had light, people call me a pollyanna.


58 posted on 11/13/2008 5:32:28 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: RenegadeNC

Er, make that “too religious.”


59 posted on 11/13/2008 5:32:52 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: LS

Pollyanna anna doodle all day.


60 posted on 11/13/2008 5:34:46 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-128 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson