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Mitt Romney: I’m no back stabber
Boston Herald ^ | 11/8/2003 | Dave Wedge

Posted on 11/09/2008 3:27:03 PM PST by GVnana

Aides blast accusations, not from Mitt camp

By Dave Wedge

Saturday, November 8, 2008 -

Mitt Romney’s camp is firing back at reports his foot soldiers are behind a brutal smear campaign against Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in a backdoor strategy to position the former Bay State governor for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination.

“It’s a completely absurd allegation that is totally divorced from the truth,” Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said.

Fox News, the New York Times [NYT] and Newsweek have reported on a host of criticisms of Palin, including that she threw tantrums that made staffers cry and didn’t know Africa was a continent. Several media outlets reported some of the leaks came from within the McCain campaign. But the political blog, The Palmetto Scoop, citing “very good sources,” said it was Romney loyalists working for McCain who were behind the “premeditated last minute sabotage” of Palin.

Fehrnstrom took issue with the Scoop’s claim that as much as 80 percent of Romney’s campaign staff went to work for Sen. John McCain’s team after the GOP primary. Only “a handful” of Romney operatives joined the Arizona senator’s campaign, he said.

“The truth is, there are no former Romney staffers in senior roles at the McCain campaign,” Fehrnstrom said. “I can think of a handful of people, maybe three or four, who went over, all in junior positions.”

However, Romney’s former campaign spokesman Kevin Madden was among the ex-Romney staffers to bash Palin. In an interview on CNN just a week before the election, Madden called Palin “unseasoned” and questioned whether she should have been McCain’s pick.

“When you put out an unknown and you give them 70 days with which to go through a vetting process, both by voters and the national press corps, ugly things can tend to happen,” Madden said.

Since McCain’s loss, Palin has been accused of dragging down the ticket in what her spokeswoman Meg Stapleton reportedly called “a circling firing squad.”

GOP strategist Holly Robichaud, who writes the “Lone Republican” blog for the Herald, said: “It’s definitely Romney’s people. They’ve been doing it for a while. Romney is thinking about running again in 2012 and he needs to kill off Sarah Palin in order to get there.”

Romney himself has defended Palin, calling her a “positive addition to the ticket” in an appearance on CBS’ “Early Show” a week before the election.

“For a first-time candidate on the national stage . . . you’re subject to the national spotlight. It’s more like a national torch,” Romney said. “She has been able to keep cool under the pressure.”

Meanwhile, a new Rasmussen poll shows that 64 percent of Republicans want Palin to be the GOP presidential candidate in 2012 while 11 percent prefer Romney.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2012; backstabbers; election; elections; gop; mccain; mittromney; mountainmeadows; mythromney; nopalin2012; palin; rinosrunamok; romney; sabotage; sarahpalin; waronsarah
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To: Earthdweller

His silence says it all.
If you don’t want your party going to the right, and you know that is the direction Sarah will take it, and she is defying you by speaking her mind and the crowds are loving it - how do you silence her?
Put out the wardrobe story.

Either Carl Cameron is a liar and these are Democratic operatives - or they were as he said “Highly placed Aides”.

As such, McCain had no Romney “highly placed Aides” these were McCain’s personal staff. Many of his staff have come out and denied this, who is remaining? His daughter, and he and his wife. I don’t think Cindy is involved. I came to admire her. I never did learn to trust or like McCain.

McCain continues to be silent. He has not tried to squelch this one bit. He at least has knowledge of it.


281 posted on 11/10/2008 6:51:20 AM PST by ODDITHER
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To: flaglady47

It is not a “disease” to avoid cults (such as you are in).

It is not a “disease” to recognize bad behavior (like you
indulge in for your Master).

Have a good day.


283 posted on 11/10/2008 7:03:00 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

Poor you. Such a hateful person. So not Christian in behavior. As I said, I pity your mental quirk.


284 posted on 11/10/2008 7:06:47 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: Colofornian

Romney is an articulate fighter (in contrast to McCain.)
If they had done that, they would have gotten back Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, etc. 24/7. I think Obama would haver lost that fight.
The real problem is not that the Dems could use that attack, but that so many of the GOP are so conflicted on the issue.


285 posted on 11/10/2008 7:56:55 AM PST by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly

So IF Romney was so articulate, why did he not SPEAK UP?

ANSWER: He was busy attacking Gov. Palin so the GOP (and America) would lose Election 2008.


286 posted on 11/10/2008 11:34:41 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

Huckabee is a Huckster. MDS reigns.


287 posted on 11/10/2008 11:39:59 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilute.)
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To: Diogenesis
I have been a Republican all my life. And you would have a hard time getting to the right of me on the issues.
Yet, now, FR has allowed me to look into the minds and hearts of a lot of other Republicans. Some of them are admirable. But quite frankly, some of them disgust me. Some of them are so warped and self righteous in their evaluation of other people, and some of them are so quick to see evil when there isn't any.
To have to depend on such motley troupes in the fight for freedom, God help us.
288 posted on 11/10/2008 11:53:52 AM PST by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly

Amen, bb. Where can us Mormon conservatives find a home? There is a core in the Republican party that wants our money and our votes and our work, but doesn’t consider one of us fit for the presidency simply because of our religion. They count on our love for our country keeping us working alongside them, despite their constant slander of us.


289 posted on 11/10/2008 12:01:52 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: GipperGal
These gays are out of their flippin' minds. They're hurling racial slurs at blacks too. I've never seen anything like it.
 
 
I've have READ things like it:

 

Genesis 13:13       Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed,
all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight?
Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends.
Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Ain't this just FABULOUS??      More?

 

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



 

But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape.....


290 posted on 11/10/2008 12:14:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lady lawyer
There is a core in the Republican party that wants our money and our votes and our work, but doesn’t consider one of us fit for the presidency simply because of our religion.

I really don't think it is THAT simple.

291 posted on 11/10/2008 12:18:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: broncobilly
Hawaiians have never been denied the priesthood in Mormonism.

Your 'denial' did not address the ACTUAL statement of "... many of the non-white Mormons on the islands..."

The truth is that 'many of the non-white Mormons' happen to be NEGRO; and yes, THEY, were denied the Prisethood - just as WOMEN are STILL denied it!

(I'm sure that if the Living Prophet® bombards Heaven with pleas, that GOD will someday 'change HIS mind' on this subject; too.)

292 posted on 11/10/2008 12:22:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
 1964 was when civil rights took place, the LDS Church had to wait 14 more years before the Lord was ready to give the priesthood to every worthy male.

OFFICIAL DECLARATION—2
 
To Whom It May Concern:
On September 30, 1978, at the 148th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the following was presented by President N. Eldon Tanner, First Counselor in the First Presidency of the Church:
 
In early June of this year, the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church. President Kimball has asked that I advise the conference that after he had received this revelation, which came to him after extended meditation and prayer in the sacred rooms of the holy temple, he presented it to his counselors, who accepted it and approved it. It was then presented to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who unanimously approved it, and was subsequently presented to all other General Authorities, who likewise approved it unanimously.
President Kimball has asked that I now read this letter:
 
June 8, 1978
 
To all general and local priesthood officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints throughout the world:
 
Dear Brethren:
 
As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords.
 
Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.
 
He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color. Priesthood leaders are instructed to follow the policy of carefully interviewing all candidates for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood to insure that they meet the established standards for worthiness.
 
We declare with soberness that the Lord has now made known his will for the blessing of all his children throughout the earth who will hearken to the voice of his authorized servants, and prepare themselves to receive every blessing of the gospel.
 
Sincerely yours,

Spencer W. Kimball
N. Eldon Tanner
Marion G. Romney

The First Presidency
Recognizing Spencer W. Kimball as the prophet, seer, and revelator, and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is proposed that we as a constituent assembly accept this revelation as the word and will of the Lord. All in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Any opposed by the same sign.
 
The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.
 
Salt Lake City, Utah, September 30, 1978.
 
 
 
 
 
Sorry Girls; but you STILL ain't considered WORTHY yet!
 
Maybe them good ol' boys in SLC can whip up some sympathy for you, too, someday!!
 
 
(Wayne and Garth say "Hi!" for they ain't worthy either!)

293 posted on 11/10/2008 12:25:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

It is that simple. The rest of the stuff thrown at Romney has just been make-weight.


294 posted on 11/10/2008 12:27:07 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: Elsie
 
 
 

"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.

 



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

  2 Nephi 5: 21    'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

  Alma 3: 6    'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

 



 

August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



 1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."

 

 



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



 

Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)

 

 



(From --->  http://www.i4m.com/think/comments/mormon-racism.htm )



Does ANYONE think that if it's Romney running in 2012; these HISTORY FACTS will stay HIDDEN???

295 posted on 11/10/2008 12:31:55 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lady lawyer
The rest of the stuff thrown at Romney has just been make-weight.

That's your story and you're sticking to it ;^)

All the NON-religious stuff is NOTHING in your opinion - it's REALLY the 'religion' wink-wink that keeps doing him in.


Well then; since Evangelicals really like a good conversion story; Mitt should 'See the Light!' and convert to Protestantism.

After all; the Mormon Organization® whats SO much to be included into the club, that they NOW want be called Christian.


After all, look what happened to take CHRISTIAN killer - Paul.

After HIS conversion, he got to write SO much Scripture!

296 posted on 11/10/2008 12:36:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
After all, look what happened to take that CHRISTIAN killer - Paul.
297 posted on 11/10/2008 12:37:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nmh
BTW, where is McPain? WHY isn't he defending Sarah Palin?

Exactly. McCain made a big point about defending Obama during the campaign. Yet he is completely silent when it comes to Palin. McCain has once again sold us out. Expect him to vote for everything Obama wants.

298 posted on 11/10/2008 12:42:13 PM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: GVnana

Romney just needs to go away.

RomneyCare
Joining the NRA two weeks before running
Liftime abortion-backer (until the election)

Willard, catch on: some people cannot be bought.

SO STOP THE ASTROTURFING, already.

(And go away bought-and-paid-for Romney supporters, too.)


299 posted on 11/10/2008 12:46:27 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: Elsie

Point taken.


300 posted on 11/10/2008 1:11:30 PM PST by GipperGal
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