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Grassroots conservatives here's our next battle: save Norm Coleman
The Collins Report ^ | November 9, 2008 | Kevin “Coach” Collins

Posted on 11/09/2008 4:13:55 AM PST by jmaroneps37

Minnesota Senator Norm Coleman is now just over 220 votes ahead of Democrat Al Franken in the race for the final available senate seat in America. While it would be easy to say, “Well Coleman didn’t vote for this bill or that bill, let him go” this is defeatist, suicidal and sets back our fight to rebuild our conservative movement.

Coleman has a lifetime 73% American Conservative Union rating, substantially larger than the voters of Minnesota, but not the American people deserve.

Minnesota’s other senator, Amy Klobucher shows us what Franken would be like. Klobucher’s lifetime American Conservative Union rating is 4%.

Franken would strive for and likely deserve a zero ACU rating then brag about it. He’d make Klobucher the house conservative.

Norm Coleman’s road back to Washington is getting steeper by the hour. There is credible evidence that the man doing the recount of Minnesota’s votes is a tool of ACORN.

Mark Ritchie the Minnesota Secretary of State is a Democrat’s Democrat. He was endorsed in 2006 by these groups, each of whom hate conservatism and would make America a gray faceless Soviet socialist country when given the chance.

Minnesota ACORN Political Action Committee

American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)

Education Minnesota

League of Young Voters/League of Pissed-Off Voters

Minnesota AFL-CIO

NARAL Pro-Choice Minnesota Election Fund

Planned Parenthood of Minnesota Political Action Fund

Progressive Action of Northeastern Minnesota and Northwestern Wisconsin

Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Minnesota State Council

Southside Pride

Stonewall DFL

These groups will love Franken as well.

America and conservatism can’t lose Norm Coleman.

He needs money for this recount. If each of us doesn’t personally step up, its over and the socialists will steal this seat.

Any questions about what we have to do?

Send him whatever you can http://www.colemanforsenate.com/splash

(Excerpt) Read more at collinsreport.net ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: coleman; markritchie; sorosboyfranken
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To: mplsconservative

No anger here. But you have a HUGE memory issue, bucko. You picked a fight with me. Now you whine and cry like a little girl. You wimp!


81 posted on 11/09/2008 9:09:59 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

I’m a big girl, a mature woman. Now you know the playing field, honey.

You can’t take, ‘eat your sour grapes’ and point to my #66.


82 posted on 11/09/2008 9:22:56 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: mplsconservative
You make no sense whatesoever. LOL

Look, if you can't take the heat of debate, stay away from FR. You want to act like a butinski troll -— you face the consequences. Simple as that.

83 posted on 11/09/2008 9:32:12 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: jmaroneps37

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

What’s Norm doing about it? Is he calling them cheaters? Will he champion election reform?

I can’t believe Bush did nothing about election reform, he’s left us twisting in the wind.


84 posted on 11/09/2008 9:36:07 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: jmaroneps37

I remember in the 2000 recount much was discussed about the specialty in law of election law. FOX interviewed a democrat election law specialist and he said the theory to overturn an election is simple. You keep counting the votes until you get the effect you want, then you declare victory and stop the count. It looks like this is what Franken is doing.


85 posted on 11/09/2008 9:39:26 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Reagan Man

What is your definition of a butinski troll?

Define it, please.


86 posted on 11/09/2008 9:43:31 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: Reagan Man
>> Coleman off as something he's not. Coleman's no conservative. Back in the 1990`s Coleman was a member of something called, the Minnesota Democratic Farm Labor Party. The Labor Party! <<

Well, my post #61 says otherwise. Coleman is not as conservative as I am, but he IS reliably conservative more often than not. He is certainly MORE conservative than your typical run of the mill RINO like Olympia Snowe or Arnold Schwarekennedy. It's pretty sad that the purists on FR feel the need to label solidly pro-life, pro-gun, pro-family, pro-WOT candidates "RINOs" and lump them in with actual RINOs. When you purists do that, you just make the real RINOs look better because they can go "of course so-and-so conservative hates me, but so and so conservative also claims John Roberts and Hyde Hyde were liberals, so I must be doing something right."

When 20 different organizations devoting to conservative issues say Norm Coleman votes with them 80-90% of the time, I'll take their word over yours.

Yes, I'm aware Coleman was a Democrat two decades ago. What's your point? Norm's been a Republican longer than Reagan was when Reagan was re-elected Governor of California. When Norm WAS a Democrat mayor, he was a constant thorn in the side of his fellow Democrats because he endorsed Republicans and was quite vocal in his pro-life and pro-family beliefs (again as noted in my post #61). I have to wonder if all the conservatives here whining about Norm being a former Democrat were hesitant to endorse the far more liberal "John Kennedy" for U.S. Senator from Louisiana when he "joined" the GOP a few monthes ago and had been a committed Clintonite for years. Do I smell hypocrisy?

Gotta love freepers who scream that Senators who agree with them 80% of the time are dirty filthy RINOs, while rooting for socialists who agree with them 5% (::cough:: Lieberman ::cough:: ) of the time and encouraging them to "join" the GOP.

With friends like that, who needs enemies?

87 posted on 11/09/2008 9:47:12 PM PST by BillyBoy (Operation Chaos - Phase 1: Hillary Phase 2: Palin)
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To: Reagan Man
You make no sense whatesoever. LOL

Look, if you can't take the heat of debate, stay away from FR. You want to act like a butinski troll -— you face the consequences. Simple as that.

You are the troll. How much did ACORN pay you to troll this board?

88 posted on 11/09/2008 9:49:46 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: mplsconservative

LOL You’re certified insane.


89 posted on 11/09/2008 10:08:27 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: BillyBoy

You Coleman supporters need a reality check.

2006 should’ve been a wake up call. 2008 should be the last straw. Conservatives have to work to purge ALL the RINOs, liberals and most of the left leaning moderate-centrists out of the GOP, ahead of the 2010 and 2012 election cycles, or else we Republicans face even more loses. If Coleman can’t beat Franken, he doesn’t deserve to be in the Senate. Period. And comparing Coleman in any way to Reagan is an insult to the Gipper’s legacy.

Btw, Coleman was a Democrat, a member of the Farm Labor Party just 12 years ago. Not two decades!


90 posted on 11/09/2008 10:26:33 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
LOL You’re certified insane.

The idea of Al Franken as my state senator, by stealing an election, is insane.

91 posted on 11/10/2008 4:43:01 AM PST by mplsconservative
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To: Just A Nobody

“They cut off her funding when she expressed concern about b.Hussien’s anti-American tendencies.”

That’s as good a disconnect as I need for the RNC and Bush and McPain. Anyone that is not in lock step with the RNC and Bush is on my favorable list. Bush with the “Patriot Act” and “Homeland Security” has handed the enemies of freedom in this country a great weapon. His bailout boy in the FED is probably going to help by weakening our banking system until the Government takes over another portion of our lives.


92 posted on 11/10/2008 6:16:51 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (On the "Road to Surfdom"is no longer a question.)
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93 posted on 11/10/2008 6:27:33 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Reagan Man

Here we go, trying to explain the same facts to you and other defeatists over and over.

This was NOT a head-to-head contest of Coleman vs. Franken. There was a third party candidate, Dean Barkley, who is nothing but a Jesse Ventura stooge and handmaiden, on the Independence Party who siphoned votes disproportionately from Coleman. RATS always vote for RATS, you see.

Furthermore, there was a damned Libertarian candidate who siphoned yet another 14,000 votes from Coleman.

Accordingly, it is grossly unfair to malign Norm as being unable to defeat Franken when he wasn’t offered a head-to-head contest. Norm had three opponents, not one. The irony of the stupidity of otherwise well-meaning, nice people in Minnesota is that for anyone who voted for the Independence or Libertarian candidate, Franken was their LAST choice. Maybe - just maybe - people will think twice next time about throwing away their vote.

Norm deserves re-election on the basis of exposing the corrupt UN oil for food program ALONE.

Fight back. If you can contribute, I am going to ask Minneapolis Steve to give us the various websites and addresses. In state Minnesotans can give to the State party $50 or $100 and get a full refund.

More strategically, we have got to do something about these damned Libertarian candidates. They are costing us Senate seats from coast to coast over the past decade.


94 posted on 11/10/2008 6:46:48 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Norm is no Jim Inhofe, to be sure, but he’s a pretty reliable Republican from a liberal state. I wouldn’t put him in the same category as Susan Collins, Gordon Smith, or Olympia Snowe. Regardless, we need Coleman’s vote to stop card check.

He's certainly no Snowe or Collins, whose lifetime ACU ratings are between 49 and 52 percent.

And he's as good a friend as unborn children have.

95 posted on 11/10/2008 6:48:03 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: MplsSteve

Steve,

I am publicly asking you to please post the website and mailing addresses of any groups that can financially aid Coleman against the recount cheating.

It is my understanding that in-state Minnesota residents can gift $50 (individual) or $100 (couple) to the State party and that this gift is not only fully reimbursed within 60 days, it can be used by the State party to help with Norm’s legal fees.

Please advise all options for MN and non-MN citizens.

Thanks


96 posted on 11/10/2008 6:50:45 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: Reagan Man
If Coleman is going to vote with the dems, (Alaska drilling) then let's let Franken and the dems take the blame for higher prices due to no drilling.

The problem for the last two elections has been the public has associated all the economic problems as the fault of Republicans when, in fact, the dems opposition was the true cause.

97 posted on 11/10/2008 7:07:32 AM PST by CAluvdubya ("Dear Lord, please help us to succeed in defeating evil this election")
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To: CAluvdubya
If Coleman is going to vote with the dems, (Alaska drilling) then let's let Franken and the dems take the blame for higher prices due to no drilling.

The problem for the last two elections has been the public has associated all the economic problems as the fault of Republicans when, in fact, the dems opposition was the true cause.

True. Coleman kept his word about Alaskan drilling. However, he also was one of the lone voices that called for truth in the Oil for Food UN scandal.

Do you honestly think the media will report honestly once all the Republicans are gone?

98 posted on 11/10/2008 7:27:04 AM PST by mplsconservative
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To: mwl8787
Hey noob, don't give me your excuses for Coleman's weak showing. The fact that Coleman was unable to take down a scumbag like Franken, shows he doesn't deserve the office. Third party or fourth party, notwithstanding. You play the cards your dealt.

>>>>>Accordingly, it is grossly unfair to malign Norm as being unable to defeat Franken ...

No its not! LOL Its absolutely fair. Now stop whining and get back on your meds.

99 posted on 11/10/2008 7:27:25 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: CAluvdubya
Perception is reality and the facts are the facts.

Bush has been President for the last eight years and for most of that time the GOP controlled Congress. Aside from tax cuts, on domestic issues Republicans did very little while in power. Very disappointing. For most of that time Republicans were highly negligent in their duties to the people and they totally abandoned the conservative agenda. They allowed spending to increase, deficits to soar and a doubling of the national debt. Bush&Company expanded the federal bureaucracy more than at any time since the Great Society and attempted to shove amnesty down our throats.

Even with all the charges and counter charges and all the finger pointing, Americans decided they wanted to wipe the slate clean. They threw out the bums in 2006 and rejected the GOP standard bearer in 2008 because they rejected President Bush. Those are the historic facts. Like’m or not.

100 posted on 11/10/2008 7:44:17 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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