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Grassroots conservatives here's our next battle: save Norm Coleman
The Collins Report ^ | November 9, 2008 | Kevin “Coach” Collins

Posted on 11/09/2008 4:13:55 AM PST by jmaroneps37

Minnesota Senator Norm Coleman is now just over 220 votes ahead of Democrat Al Franken in the race for the final available senate seat in America. While it would be easy to say, “Well Coleman didn’t vote for this bill or that bill, let him go” this is defeatist, suicidal and sets back our fight to rebuild our conservative movement.

Coleman has a lifetime 73% American Conservative Union rating, substantially larger than the voters of Minnesota, but not the American people deserve.

Minnesota’s other senator, Amy Klobucher shows us what Franken would be like. Klobucher’s lifetime American Conservative Union rating is 4%.

Franken would strive for and likely deserve a zero ACU rating then brag about it. He’d make Klobucher the house conservative.

Norm Coleman’s road back to Washington is getting steeper by the hour. There is credible evidence that the man doing the recount of Minnesota’s votes is a tool of ACORN.

Mark Ritchie the Minnesota Secretary of State is a Democrat’s Democrat. He was endorsed in 2006 by these groups, each of whom hate conservatism and would make America a gray faceless Soviet socialist country when given the chance.

Minnesota ACORN Political Action Committee

American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)

Education Minnesota

League of Young Voters/League of Pissed-Off Voters

Minnesota AFL-CIO

NARAL Pro-Choice Minnesota Election Fund

Planned Parenthood of Minnesota Political Action Fund

Progressive Action of Northeastern Minnesota and Northwestern Wisconsin

Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Minnesota State Council

Southside Pride

Stonewall DFL

These groups will love Franken as well.

America and conservatism can’t lose Norm Coleman.

He needs money for this recount. If each of us doesn’t personally step up, its over and the socialists will steal this seat.

Any questions about what we have to do?

Send him whatever you can http://www.colemanforsenate.com/splash

(Excerpt) Read more at collinsreport.net ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: coleman; markritchie; sorosboyfranken
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We'll need every senator we can get to stop the socialists.
1 posted on 11/09/2008 4:13:56 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37
We'll need every senator we can get to stop the socialists.

Especially if Lugar and Hagel defect and join the Obama Administration.

2 posted on 11/09/2008 4:16:26 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: jmaroneps37
OK, here's "the deal":

If he will PUBLICLY COMMIT to voting NAY to "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" (i.e AMNESTY for 20 million illegals, the first step in turning them in to Democrat bloc voters) in the Senate the MINUTE Obama's forces have it introduced in 2009, then maybe I will consider sending some money.

Until then, NOTHING.

This is not a one way street.

We need some concession, something MAJOR from Coleman, to activate FR on behalf of him--although I appreciate what is at stake.

Call this "Conditional Conservatism"

Just my take, but I suspect most Freepers will feel the same when getting last minute pleas from a RINO in trouble.

3 posted on 11/09/2008 4:22:51 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Look at the bright side. The Mass Media will FINALLY report nice & praising stories of the military)
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To: cmj328

They were pretty much on that side of the aisle anyway. Don’t forget Lindsay and Juan MaCain.


4 posted on 11/09/2008 4:25:01 AM PST by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I agree.


5 posted on 11/09/2008 4:28:00 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I agree... We need to realize the difference between a RINO from a Blue state like Minnesota, and a RINO from say South Carolina (Ms Lindsay).

IMO, Coleman is a huge bonus. As is even Collins and Snowe from deep blue Maine. Rock ribbed conservatives are not going to win in these states. That’s a fact.

And while we don’t want them to personify the Republican party, or become leaders, their voting records pale in conparision. Look at Snowe and Collins (both avg lifetime 50% from ACU). While not great, compare to their liberal House counterparts from Maine Allen (5) Michaud (16). Or compare to so-called conservative Dems like Landreau (22), and Webb (12).

In addition it gives us seats we have no business holding.

This is what the Ds have been doing for 2 cycles. Running conservative Dems in GOP states/districts and then giving the real power to Reid Pelosi.


6 posted on 11/09/2008 4:31:30 AM PST by nhwingut (,)
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To: jmaroneps37
While Norm is not conservative enough for me, the issue here is much bigger. This election is being stolen! Democrat SOS Mark Ritchie, and his henchmen are manufacturing votes which cannot be verified, and will make sure that Franken comes out the winner in the recount no matter what. And I believe this is a trail run; if this is successful, this will happen all over the country in 2010. This is the reason for this fight; not just for Coleman's sake.
7 posted on 11/09/2008 4:45:19 AM PST by MrsPatriot (W...Still the President!)
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To: jmaroneps37

Once the cat is out of the bag it is too late to stop it. The Liberals know have control of the election commissions in America.


8 posted on 11/09/2008 4:49:32 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: jmaroneps37

If pubbies aren’t willing to go to the wall for Coleman, there is no hope.


9 posted on 11/09/2008 4:55:34 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: cmj328

Hagel retired and was replaced by a Republican.

Lugar would be replaced by Indiana’s GOP governor.


10 posted on 11/09/2008 4:57:51 AM PST by Impy (When he takes the oath of office with they say his middle name?)
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To: jmaroneps37
While it would be easy to say, “Well Coleman didn’t vote for this bill or that bill, let him go” this is defeatist, suicidal and ...

There is nothing defeatist about that hypothetical ... suicidal perhaps.

...sets back our fight to rebuild our conservative movement.

Electing a Rino is what would set back the rebuilding of "our" conservative movement.

Take back the language!
While I understand having an "R" in office, whether it stands for rino, republican or reformer, is infinitely better than any "D", hitching the Rino to the Conservative movement is deceptive.
Republican and Conservative are NOT synonymous!

I contributed more than once to an actual Conservative candidate in MN. Perhaps you are aware of her? She is the one the republican party threw under the bus a week or so before the election.



P.S. SHE WON!!!

11 posted on 11/09/2008 5:08:08 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: cmj328

Wouldn’t Dems be miffed if a position as high as sec of state were given to a Republican, even if it’s Lugar? I kind of hope it happens though so then Gov Daniels could appoint a younger, hopefully more conservative senator.


12 posted on 11/09/2008 5:14:21 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: AmericanInTokyo
NO. This is a matter of Democrats stealing another election. We must stop them. It doesn't matter if Coleman is a RINO or not. This election belongs to Coleman. Right is right, wrong is wrong. It does not matter one twit Coleman's positions on issues.

It's time we put a stop to RATS stealing elections!!

We need to storm MN.

13 posted on 11/09/2008 5:18:13 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: wendy1946
Thanks. I'm willing to make a trip to MN. I'm sick of RATS stealing elections and it sounds as if there are Freepers who are perfectly happy to see it happen. We're just asking for more of it if we dont' stop it NOW!!!

Next time it will be a conservative.

14 posted on 11/09/2008 5:20:28 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: nhwingut
I am all for bargaining with Coleman at this stage over his future support or opposition to Comprehensive Immigration Reform. He is in a weak position and needs us. Lets use our bargaining power.

I would say, he will take the "deal" with conservatives.

Nothing comes for free.

If Norm's people are reading this, I would hope they would come forward with an "offer" to get the negotiations going.

15 posted on 11/09/2008 5:22:24 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Look at the bright side. The Mass Media will FINALLY report nice & praising stories of the military)
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To: MrsPatriot
While Norm is not conservative enough for me, the issue here is much bigger. This election is being stolen! Democrat SOS Mark Ritchie, and his henchmen are manufacturing votes which cannot be verified, and will make sure that Franken comes out the winner in the recount no matter what. And I believe this is a trail run; if this is successful, this will happen all over the country in 2010. This is the reason for this fight; not just for Coleman's sake.

I have to agree!!! Polly

16 posted on 11/09/2008 5:22:33 AM PST by pollywog (I will lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help. My help comes from the Lord...Ps 121)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Sorry. Coleman and the RNC are in no position to dictate terms and demand our support of Coleman.

He must negotiate with the Conservative Wing if he wants support. All the RINOs that want to go up to Minnesota in a van without getting any concessions from the guy are fine with me, but you wont find me anywhere near there, or my wallet for that matter, unless certain "must haves" are guaranteed. The major one for me and many others is Immigration and Amnesty.

Welcome to politics.

Welcome to horse trading.

He needs us now more than we need him.

17 posted on 11/09/2008 5:26:08 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Look at the bright side. The Mass Media will FINALLY report nice & praising stories of the military)
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To: jmaroneps37

An article I read last night said that a stack of absentee ballots from the Minneapolis area just showed up. Coleman was suing to keep them from being opened because there was sketchy information about the chain of possession of these ballots. Coleman’s lawyer demanded a full accounting of the chain of possession before they could be opened and counted.


18 posted on 11/09/2008 5:45:07 AM PST by randita (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Just my take, but I suspect most Freepers will feel the same when getting last minute pleas from a RINO in trouble.

True, However the election is over, the out come will be the out come. This is no hanging chads deal.

19 posted on 11/09/2008 5:58:56 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: Impy
Hagel retired

I don't remember receiving a party invitation. How was the champagne?

20 posted on 11/09/2008 6:03:25 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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