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We'll need every senator we can get to stop the socialists.
1 posted on 11/09/2008 4:13:56 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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We'll need every senator we can get to stop the socialists.

Especially if Lugar and Hagel defect and join the Obama Administration.

2 posted on 11/09/2008 4:16:26 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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OK, here's "the deal":

If he will PUBLICLY COMMIT to voting NAY to "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" (i.e AMNESTY for 20 million illegals, the first step in turning them in to Democrat bloc voters) in the Senate the MINUTE Obama's forces have it introduced in 2009, then maybe I will consider sending some money.

Until then, NOTHING.

This is not a one way street.

We need some concession, something MAJOR from Coleman, to activate FR on behalf of him--although I appreciate what is at stake.

Call this "Conditional Conservatism"

Just my take, but I suspect most Freepers will feel the same when getting last minute pleas from a RINO in trouble.

3 posted on 11/09/2008 4:22:51 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Look at the bright side. The Mass Media will FINALLY report nice & praising stories of the military)
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I agree... We need to realize the difference between a RINO from a Blue state like Minnesota, and a RINO from say South Carolina (Ms Lindsay).

IMO, Coleman is a huge bonus. As is even Collins and Snowe from deep blue Maine. Rock ribbed conservatives are not going to win in these states. That’s a fact.

And while we don’t want them to personify the Republican party, or become leaders, their voting records pale in conparision. Look at Snowe and Collins (both avg lifetime 50% from ACU). While not great, compare to their liberal House counterparts from Maine Allen (5) Michaud (16). Or compare to so-called conservative Dems like Landreau (22), and Webb (12).

In addition it gives us seats we have no business holding.

This is what the Ds have been doing for 2 cycles. Running conservative Dems in GOP states/districts and then giving the real power to Reid Pelosi.


6 posted on 11/09/2008 4:31:30 AM PST by nhwingut (,)
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While Norm is not conservative enough for me, the issue here is much bigger. This election is being stolen! Democrat SOS Mark Ritchie, and his henchmen are manufacturing votes which cannot be verified, and will make sure that Franken comes out the winner in the recount no matter what. And I believe this is a trail run; if this is successful, this will happen all over the country in 2010. This is the reason for this fight; not just for Coleman's sake.
7 posted on 11/09/2008 4:45:19 AM PST by MrsPatriot (W...Still the President!)
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Once the cat is out of the bag it is too late to stop it. The Liberals know have control of the election commissions in America.


8 posted on 11/09/2008 4:49:32 AM PST by gunnedah
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If pubbies aren’t willing to go to the wall for Coleman, there is no hope.


9 posted on 11/09/2008 4:55:34 AM PST by wendy1946
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While it would be easy to say, “Well Coleman didn’t vote for this bill or that bill, let him go” this is defeatist, suicidal and ...

There is nothing defeatist about that hypothetical ... suicidal perhaps.

...sets back our fight to rebuild our conservative movement.

Electing a Rino is what would set back the rebuilding of "our" conservative movement.

Take back the language!
While I understand having an "R" in office, whether it stands for rino, republican or reformer, is infinitely better than any "D", hitching the Rino to the Conservative movement is deceptive.
Republican and Conservative are NOT synonymous!

I contributed more than once to an actual Conservative candidate in MN. Perhaps you are aware of her? She is the one the republican party threw under the bus a week or so before the election.



P.S. SHE WON!!!

11 posted on 11/09/2008 5:08:08 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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An article I read last night said that a stack of absentee ballots from the Minneapolis area just showed up. Coleman was suing to keep them from being opened because there was sketchy information about the chain of possession of these ballots. Coleman’s lawyer demanded a full accounting of the chain of possession before they could be opened and counted.


18 posted on 11/09/2008 5:45:07 AM PST by randita (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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why save someone who cant even win against al.


23 posted on 11/09/2008 6:26:38 AM PST by dalebert
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Ironic that Conservatives have to save a RINO to somehow believe he will create a veto-proof congress. Norm... you owe us big time!
30 posted on 11/09/2008 10:31:52 AM PST by April Lexington
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Minnesota Senator Norm Coleman is now just over 220 votes ahead of Democrat Al Franken A first class idiot with a temper...

Norm Coleman is a Godsend compared to the alternative.

Lest we forget, A DFL'r will vote for a gnat if they tote a "D" after their born name before a human non-DFL'r.

35 posted on 11/09/2008 10:47:46 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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The days of Republicans going it alone with just their Congressional and/or campaign staff are over. Other voices are needed to get elected. The Democrats have had the liberal media backing them for decades. Now they have leftwing partisan groups like MoveOn.org, DailyKos and Democraticunderground that have sprung up in the last eight years. They've done a far better job of promoting the liberal agenda and opposing the GOP, then rightwing groups have done to advance the conservative agenda and oppose Democrats.

Norm Coleman is in the position today of being beaten by a comic has-been, a first class clown. Coleman deserves to lose.

38 posted on 11/09/2008 11:01:06 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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While it would be easy to say, “Well Coleman didn’t vote for this bill or that bill, let him go” this is defeatist, suicidal and sets back our fight to rebuild our conservative movement

Not even sure why this was raised. Anyone who prefers Al Franken to Norm Coleman is a partisan liberal or an idiot.

39 posted on 11/09/2008 11:04:30 AM PST by plain talk
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After the rats steal this election, how many dead people do you think will have “voted” for Franken?
This is the Washington state govenor’s election all over again.


43 posted on 11/09/2008 11:07:36 AM PST by PhillyRepublican
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Norm is no Jim Inhofe, to be sure, but he’s a pretty reliable Republican from a liberal state. I wouldn’t put him in the same category as Susan Collins, Gordon Smith, or Olympia Snowe.

Regardless, we need Coleman’s vote to stop card check.


45 posted on 11/09/2008 11:14:26 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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Coleman is really also part of the political problem because he’s a RINO Republican and not a conservative Republican. I still remember Coleman’s vote against drilling for oil in Alaska and how close the total vote was in the Senate. This country is really feeling it now, thanks, in part, to Coleman’s vote against drilling for oil in Alaska. If the Democrats and “leftist” Republicans are going to go off a cliff together, then the more the merrier for the long-term of politics, that is, if conservatives are able to seriously and successfully make any kind of political comeback at any point in the future.


48 posted on 11/09/2008 11:21:47 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (There's nothing good to say about leftists in complete control of everything important.)
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My prediction: the Rats are gonna steal this election, just like they stole the governorship in Washington state.


49 posted on 11/09/2008 11:21:58 AM PST by Babu (I am a free man with a country, but no president.)
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

What’s Norm doing about it? Is he calling them cheaters? Will he champion election reform?

I can’t believe Bush did nothing about election reform, he’s left us twisting in the wind.


84 posted on 11/09/2008 9:36:07 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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I remember in the 2000 recount much was discussed about the specialty in law of election law. FOX interviewed a democrat election law specialist and he said the theory to overturn an election is simple. You keep counting the votes until you get the effect you want, then you declare victory and stop the count. It looks like this is what Franken is doing.


85 posted on 11/09/2008 9:39:26 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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