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Closing the door on victimhood
boston.com (Boston Globe) ^ | November 6, 2008. | Joan Vennochi

Posted on 11/06/2008 12:57:52 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu

Some black leaders say Obama's political success means it's time to shift away from the dialogue of victimhood.

"Racism is no longer the primary obstacle to black progress. With the election of a black man whose middle name is Hussein, the rhetoric of white racism is off the table," declared the Rev. Eugene Rivers, a Boston-based minister with a national agenda and a history of taking controversial stands. "Black people don't want to hear it. White people don't want to hear it. . . . The old school is over."

By "old school," Rivers is referring to what he calls the "professional protest leadership" represented by civil rights activists like Jackson. That worldview, said Rivers, calls for "decrying inequality" and blaming white racism for all the problems of African-Americans.

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Imploringly: Read the entire article before commenting. Considering the Boston Globe gives the option of 'sharing' the article, you'd figure that it could be posted in its entirety on FR. Huh.

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[Original post before discovering the article had to be excerpted:] Who wants to bet a lot of freepers will find oodles to whine about this article, ignoring the huge chunks of good stuff and griping about the few 'bad' (but generally truthful) bits? (rhetorical - though you're free to answer if you want).

1 posted on 11/06/2008 12:57:53 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Not going to whine because I’m not going to read it.


2 posted on 11/06/2008 1:01:25 PM PST by Stentor (b. July 4, 1776 - d. January 20, 2009 sorely missed.)
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To: Bahbah; Interesting Times; MinuteGal
Have been having this conversation with a few friends around here....Does ) election mean “I'm a victim” is now removed from the table. What about affirmative action?
3 posted on 11/06/2008 1:03:05 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I can’t believe the Boston Globe would have anything good to say; but I can hear a big SLAM by the conservatives.

I am through with these stupid newspapers. I do wonder; with their messiah in place; what are they going to write about? LOL


4 posted on 11/06/2008 1:03:42 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: hoosiermama
If this happens I'll buy the entire forum a round. I'll buy jimrob a brand new bank of servers.

If you knew how tight I was you'd understand how unlikely them giving up the race card is.

5 posted on 11/06/2008 1:05:47 PM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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"Black people don't want to hear it. White people don't want to hear it."

My view is that neither may want to hear it, but both sides (at least some of their members) obviously NEED to hear it, considering how sizable percentages* of both communities hate each other.

There's obviously a problem there. You solve problems by: firstly, recognizing they exist; understanding the problem; and then ATTACKING THE PROBLEM. No problem has been solved by trying to wish it away and pretending that it doesn't exist. *I consider 10% or even 5% large, when you're talking about a population in the hundred of millions. And an estimated 15% of young people still disapprove of miscegenation ('interracial' marriage). What the pa'doozy?

[I took a break from FR precisely because I was posting on 'racial' overdrive, now here I am doing it again. Crikey.]

6 posted on 11/06/2008 1:07:08 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( I've started to use 'I' again.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
At the same time, major disparities in income and education continue to separate black and white America; gang violence takes the lives of black teenagers in cities across America; and a generation of black men call prison their home. Community leaders want these problems solved somehow.

What a happy coincidence! I happen to know the solutions for these problems!

1. The single biggest predictive factor for poverty is having a child out of wedlock. The black community can make amazing progress on this problem if black people would get married and have children within their marriage!

2. Black youths should stop becoming gangstas.

3. Black men should stop committing serious crimes.

7 posted on 11/06/2008 1:08:11 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I read the article. The race-baiting grifters will still pimp their agenda, collect their tax-exempt “donations” and find a way to make a living at what they do best. They’re not done with their damage to society, yet.

When Obama cannot deliver on his improbable, impossible, ridiculous promises, blacks are going to eat him alive. But not conservative blacks; they didn’t vote him in, in the first place.

Just my 2-cents.


8 posted on 11/06/2008 1:10:30 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ('Taking the moderate path of appeasement leads to abysmal defeat.' - Rush on 11/05/08)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

You would make a crappy Community Organizer.


9 posted on 11/06/2008 1:11:57 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Chimpy ObaMao is not my president.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

That makes Jesse sad.

10 posted on 11/06/2008 1:13:20 PM PST by OB1kNOb (Øbama may be President, but Jesus Christ is still the King, and even Øbama's knee will bow to Him.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Wow!

“People should stop committing crimes” is your solution to crime?

Take that one straight to the top. You’ve got something here.


11 posted on 11/06/2008 1:14:22 PM PST by 4everfree2001
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To: hoosiermama

They will cling desperately to the race card. I will not be having any of it.


12 posted on 11/06/2008 1:15:04 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: 4everfree2001

As Pataki stated, TRUTHFULLY:

‘’The root causes of crime are the criminals who engage in it,’’


13 posted on 11/06/2008 1:17:59 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Good article... a black pastor in Indianapolis was quoted in this mornings paper saying "black Americans need to change their ways. Obama can not solve our problems on his own. We as a people have to decrease violence and increase love. Deadbeat dads are going to have to stop being deadbeat. There's a laundry list of things to do and sacrifices for us to be successful".

Hopefully the victimhood mentality is finally on it's deathbed...

14 posted on 11/06/2008 1:25:50 PM PST by reagankid
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To: 4everfree2001

The point was: if you’re going to commit crimes, don’t whine about being incarcerated.

The “problem” is not black men behind bars. The problem is black men committing crimes.


15 posted on 11/06/2008 1:27:16 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Chimpy ObaMao is not my president.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Personally, this is the ONE thing about this election that I am happy about. Sure, there will continue to be a few race-baiters who try to keep “their” people on the plantation of victimhood, but many, many more people will finally realize and internalize that it ie a LIE that the “American dream” is not for them because of their race.

Many, many more will realize that the front gate has been wide open all this time. Their leaders told them constantly that there was no way they could make against the “oppresion” in this society. That was hooey and now there is no excuse for not knowing it is hooey.

I abhor Obama’s politics. But sometimes I think that the spirit of freedom from race-baiters and the racial-grievance industry-— characterized by Jesse Jackson and Jeremiah Wright (both of whom live in million dollars homes in “white” neighborhoods)-— that Obama’s election will finally make convincing to those oppressed by their own “civil rights leaders,” will in itself eventually repudiate Obama’s politics.

Socialism (which leads to communism, which leads to totalitarianism, which leads to the brutal murder of hundreds of millions of innocents) thrives on class envy combined with victimhood.

If many more young people look at Obama and say “I want to succeed like he did, and I can,” that will be a wonderful thing for our nation.

AND many of them, upon learning the ropes of success, will realize the welfare state is slavery and they will want no part of it.


16 posted on 11/06/2008 1:28:51 PM PST by fightinJAG (How long until the Democrats completely trash this country?)
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To: Stentor

Why not?

Do you think Obama’s election will have no impact at all on the effectiveness of the old race-baiting lines and victimhood?


17 posted on 11/06/2008 1:30:16 PM PST by fightinJAG (How long until the Democrats completely trash this country?)
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To: fightinJAG

nice post!


18 posted on 11/06/2008 1:41:12 PM PST by reagankid
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To: fightinJAG
Do you think Obama’s election will have no impact at all on the effectiveness of the old race-baiting lines and victimhood?

Real power is what this is all about. Do you understand what tribal warfare is? Only one side is fighting. It is why I believe that a National Front party will arise one day. The Demrat Party is playing with fire. It could all be stopped if our side could man up and call it what it is. The country is about to see what can be accomplished when Marxists and Black Nationalists who know about power get to use it.

19 posted on 11/06/2008 1:42:52 PM PST by Stentor (b. July 4, 1776 - d. January 20, 2009 sorely missed.)
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To: hoosiermama
"Does ) election mean “I'm a victim” is now removed from the table"

Don't be silly, there's an entire industry built on victimhood.

If anything this will turbocharge the greivance merchants and we'll all be paying reparations soon.

Just look at the gays in SF, does it look like they're going away?

20 posted on 11/06/2008 1:46:38 PM PST by Pietro
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