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Obama can win the popular vote by 10 and still lose the election

Posted on 11/02/2008 8:35:04 PM PST by mathwhizz

The popular vote is irrelevent. It's unlikely McCain will win the popular vote.

Obama will likely win California and New York by 25 or 30 points or more.

And black turnout in the South will reduce McCain's margins to single digits.

But who cares?

Whether you win a state by 1% or 20%, a win is a win is a win in the electoral college.

All McCain has to do is hold the Bush states and steal Pennsylvania. I believe whoever wins PA will win the election. The west is hard because of the growth in the hispanic population and liberal California refugees. So while I'm still hoping to eke out wins in Nevada and Colorado I am not counting on them.

Let me tell you, I've seen the internals of the PA polls having Obama leading by 7, 8 or more. They are complete and utter BS. They have Obama winning SW Pennsylvania and Northeast PA by 10 points. Hillary won many of those counties 3:1. These are socially conservative voters. These are older voters. They are the salt of the earth people that Obama said clung to their religion and guns. They don't like radical change. They will not vote for B. Hussein Obama who spent 20 years in Wright's church of hate. I don't care what any BS poll says. It isn't going to happen.

If you look at the last Mason Dixon poll that had Obama with a 4 point lead 47-43 with 10% undecided, the vast majority of whom were white and rural in SW and NE PA, this is very, very, very do-able.

Seriously, if you are still undecided after watching Obama carpet bomb the airwaves outspending McCain 4:1, you aren't going to vote for him no matter what. Obama outspent Hillary 4:1 and still lost by 10 points.

McCain will win PA and with it the White House. Do not get discouraged. Get out the vote!


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To: krb

Crap....sorry for the inattention to detail...”hear”, not “here”, “,” not “)”...etc. I can’t multi-task for anything!


41 posted on 11/02/2008 9:53:21 PM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: StreetKnowledge

Wellcome to FR; what opened your eyes to the Democrat’s idiocy?


42 posted on 11/02/2008 10:05:09 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: GoMonster
Total Vote Turnout Estimate 2008: 130,000,000

52% Obama 48% McCain *3rd party candidates are excluded for this model

Obama Total Votes: 67,600,000 McCain Votes: 62,400,000

Your whole model is based on these assumptions drawn from badly slanted polling samples, wherein 80% of the called parties refused to participate.

My estimate: Obama would have to steal or manufacture 17.6 million votes to get to 67 million. In other words, I don't believe Obama will draw 50 million actual votes from living, breathing, legitimate American voters.

43 posted on 11/02/2008 10:33:19 PM PST by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: mathwhizz

Hoss

If Mccain holds the Bush states he doesn’t need Pennsylvania.

Mccain is not defending a half dozen formerly red states the final days and only on the attack in blue PA because his internals say he’s ahead.

I hate to break it to ya’ll.

We have to turn out on Tuesday....record turnout by cracker America.


44 posted on 11/02/2008 10:36:59 PM PST by wardaddy (I'm as enthusiastic about Obama as my kinfolks were about Reconstruction)
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To: StreetKnowledge

God bless you.

I was an early 70s lefty who saw the light during Carter whom I campaigned for.

I even had copies of dare i admit....Prairie Fire....young and dumb and full of...

anyhow, we need all the help we can get


45 posted on 11/02/2008 10:39:58 PM PST by wardaddy (I'm as enthusiastic about Obama as my kinfolks were about Reconstruction)
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To: curling

yeah ask anyone living in IL how that works,or as they are treated by their elected officials the appendage attached to the great state of Chicago


46 posted on 11/02/2008 11:13:59 PM PST by rednekelmo
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To: mathwhizz
Welcome to FR noob
47 posted on 11/03/2008 3:39:36 AM PST by Condor51 (The only difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh is the body count!)
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