No On 8 Statement on Field Poll (gays try to spin bad poll prior to 10 pm PST public release)

MarketWatch ^ | Oct 30, 2008 | NO on 8 PR flak

[blue state conservative]

"The Field Poll shows that Prop 8's deceptive campaign has failed to move their numbers much at all. Prop 8 is trying to run a campaign to get to a Yes vote, yet they have remained in this and other polls well below the 50 percent margin necessary for success. We are running a No campaign, and we are successfully keeping our opponents below 50 percent. "We are highly energized across the state and we believe this will be a close election. We reject any suggestion that there will be a last minute surge for Prop 8 in a year where California is expected to go overwhelmingly for Sen. Barack Obama.

[blue state conservative]

The final Field poll on Prop 8 is apparently being released at 10 pm PST. Apparently the no-on-8 crowd always gets the results in advance. This sure sounds like they are disappointed in the results. And remember the Field poll underestimated support for the last gay marriage ban in 2000 by 10 points.

[DemonDeac]

I must say that any thread title that includes “gay” and “bad poll” throws up some warning flags.

[blue state conservative]

LOL!

I tried “no-on-8” instead of “gay” but got caught on the 200 character title limit.

[goldstategop]

The Field Poll is dead wrong. The point is the NO side is trying to put spin on very bad news.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[DoughtyOne]

I’d like to see this pass 85/15 to put the issue to bed once and for all (as if it would). We’ll be seeing folks trying to legalize homosexual marriage until they get it. That’s the sad state of the affairs of this old world.

[goldstategop]

It will be more likely 62-38. The Gay Lobby has to then try to convince voters to amend the constitution to change the definition of marriage.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[blue state conservative]

The beauty of it is it only needs 50% to become part of the State Constitution. If the pro-gay marriage crowd wants to try and take it out of the constitution in the future they will need a 2/3 majority.

[goldstategop]

No. They would need to gather a lot of signatures to get an initiative constitutional amendment on the ballot and then argue for a change. That is very difficult to do and in no state that has passed a constitutional amendment to protect marriage has such an effort been mounted to date.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[editor-surveyor]

It’ll be the usual 65% or so.

[DoughtyOne]

I would be surprised by either actually.

I’ll be happy if we can get 62% to vote against. When this was first put on the ballot, I had serious concerns if it would be rejected or not.

And yes, they’ll stop at nothing to find another way to get this passed.

I hope we don’t go down this road, but there are times when I can’t believe what our nation has already signed onto.

[DoughtyOne]

With apologies, I mean to say, “...wouldn’t be surprised by either” there.

[DoughtyOne]

I hope so.

[nickcarraway]

California' Gay Marriage Prop 8: A Tie

[goldstategop]

Being gay will always appeal to a minority of mankind. If it ever became a universal inclination, the human race would become extinct. No one is arguing gays shouldn't be allowed to have their own private lives. What the argument is whether they should be allowed to redefine the meaning of marriage for the rest of society. The majority is right to say that it should be left alone.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[lewislynn]

We reject any suggestion that there will be a last minute surge for Prop 8 in a year where California is expected to go overwhelmingly for Sen. Barack Obama

Counting chickens before they hatch in more ways than one.

But other than companion yard signs, what exaclty does Barack Obama have to do with the definition of marriage?

[calcowgirl]

We reject any suggestion that there will be a last minute surge for Prop 8 in a year where California is expected to go overwhelmingly for Sen. Barack Obama.

LOL. Hack Steve Smith fails to acknowledge that many of those Obama supporters in the African American and Hispanic communities are socially conservative and are strongly opposed to same sex marriage.

Hasn't Obama even said that he doesn't favor same sex marriage (or was it just that he opposes a Federal Marriage Amendment)?

I think Smith's PR announcement will actually motivate more folks to make sure Prop 8 passes. BACKFIRE!

P.S. Both Field and PPIC started releasing their polls to the media the night before they post them on their websites for public viewing. (Not sure if they give them to campaigns or if Smith got second-hand info from a friendly news source)

[goldstategop]

Liberals think all those religious AKA values voters don't exist. Let em keep thinking they're not there.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[MediaMole]

How many states have failed to pass gay “marriage” bans? Not many.

Even liberal states tend to pass bans with wide margins that are always missed by pollsters. It’s sort of a reverse Bradley Effect. People don’t want to tell a pollster that they are so unenlightened that they believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.

[Dilbert San Diego]

the previous marriage proposition passed easily in 2000, in a year in which Calif. went strongly for Al Gore. So there’s not necessarily a connection between Democratic voting and marriage amendments.

In 2004, 11 states voted for constitional amendments to define marriage, including some Kerry states. Even though homosexual marriage is a liberal cause, and Democrats are the liberal party, there are significant numbers of ordinary Democrats who oppose same-sex marriage.

[Dilbert San Diego]

I think there has been only one of these marriage amendments that failed to pass.

That is of states that actually got to vote on the issue. The Mass. legislature adjourned last year rather than authorize a vote on a marriage amendment in Massachusetts, even though a record number of citizen signatures requested such an amendment vote.

You gotta love Democrat politicians. In Mass. they adjourned rather than approve putting the amendment on the ballot. They were too cowardly to even vote on the matter.