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Why John McCain Continues to Trail Barack Obama in Pennsylvania
U.S. News & World Report ^ | October 27, 2008 | Michael Barone

Posted on 10/27/2008 5:42:05 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

One of the mysteries of this campaign year has been why John McCain keeps campaigning in Pennsylvania when the polls show him far behind Barack Obama there—51 percent to 41 percent in the RealClearPolitics.com average of recent polls as I write. A clue comes from the most recent poll there by SurveyUSA, which helpfully provides a regional breakdown of results. SurveyUSA, as it has consistently done, shows McCain running within the margin of error in the southwest (metro Pittsburgh and surroundings) and in the Northeast (Scranton and the anthracite country), which historically are very Democratic areas. Joe Biden's Scranton roots and the support of Scranton-based Bob Casey don't seem to be doing Obama much good there. McCain carries the west-central and south-central areas, as most Republicans do. But he is incredibly weak—behind Obama 64 percent to 32 percent in the southeast, which includes about 40 percent of the state's voters. Most of this area is metropolitan Philadelphia, which George W. Bush lost in 2004 by a 62 percent to 37 percent margin; the remainder is presumably Lehigh, Northampton, Berks, and Lancaster counties, where Bush ran better. The regional breakdown in the most recent Quinnipiac poll tells exactly the same story.

In other words, McCain is running even with or better than Bush in most of Pennsylvania but is running far behind in metro Philly.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2008; antiamericanleft; barone; leftwingconspiracy; mccain; neonationalsocalist; obama; pa; pa2008
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To: impeachedrapist
Hey, you're busting your butt to get Obama/Biden elected, and I'm doing my darnedest to defeat you. And I make no apologies for that.

You're very imaginative, as always.

121 posted on 10/27/2008 7:26:40 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; PhiKapMom

Hey Ma, your snot-nosed punk friend from the other day is running his yap again. :-)


122 posted on 10/27/2008 7:27:18 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist

ROFLOL!!! Mr. Doom and Gloomer himself!


123 posted on 10/27/2008 7:41:17 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Clemenza

My brother lives in Orlando and said the Puerto Ricans have been out working for McCain along with the Cubans. Castro endorsement had an impact in both communities according to people he works with at Lockheed-Martin.


124 posted on 10/27/2008 7:46:10 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: BfloGuy; not2worry

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116770/posts


125 posted on 10/27/2008 7:46:50 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Visit my blog: Chronic Positivity - http://chronicpositivity.com)
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To: Clintonfatigued
But he is incredibly weak—behind Obama 64 percent to 32 percent in the southeast, which includes about 40 percent of the state's voters. Most of this area is metropolitan Philadelphia,

That's because those are the real racist PA voters. The black vote.

126 posted on 10/27/2008 7:46:59 PM PDT by Huck (Teddy Roosevelt vs. Che Guevera)
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To: prolifefirst
Err...Smart “educated people” building wealth the old, slow, prudent way, know exactly why their home values and stock market investments have temporarily crashed.

Stupid “educated people” think Obama and the Socialists AKA Democrats will somehow “save” them from the justly deserved results of their bad financial decisions and immoral behavior in their personal “get rich quick” schemes.

But what do I know? I'm just a lower middle class single working mother who decided I could really not afford to buy and maintain property on my current salaried income.
I also drive an old vehicle I paid for in cash.
I don't have any credit card debt.
I don't qualify for “government assistance”.
I pay taxes.I don't have any choice, since all my income comes from earned wages, and taxes are confiscated from me by order of the Feds, before I can even deposit my paycheck.

Do I “need” a government bailout?
ROTFLMAO!
Does anyone?

127 posted on 10/27/2008 7:46:59 PM PDT by sarasmom (McCain is in the tank for Obama.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Was Barone talking about Philly itself, or the Philadelphia metropolitan area (including suburban Delaware, Chester, and Bucks Counties)?”

The latter. Hence his 40% estimate is accurate.


128 posted on 10/27/2008 7:48:14 PM PDT by devere
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To: Bailee

I’ve never been to California, but Philth-adelphia very well could be more liberal AND more corrupt than LA.


129 posted on 10/27/2008 7:52:18 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Visit my blog: Chronic Positivity - http://chronicpositivity.com)
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To: Norman Bates

“Are the Philly suburbs a good incubator for the Bradley Effect?”

Yes, and also for the Shy Tory effect. Who wants to admit opposing the anointed one, and risk this happening?:

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/obama-followers-vandalize-homes-in-gainesville/#more-7154

I’m cautiously optimistic that we will carry Pennsylvania, and with it the White House.


130 posted on 10/27/2008 8:00:29 PM PDT by devere
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To: indylindy
Perhaps McCain would be far ahead in Pennsylvania if he just insulted them more.

Thanks for the much needed chuckle. :)
131 posted on 10/27/2008 8:04:04 PM PDT by Canedawg ("The media is a ass," said Mr. Bumble.)
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To: scrabblehack
Now is it possible that McCain is trailing as badly as Barone says?

Yes. :-(

132 posted on 10/27/2008 8:08:52 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: PaRep

You need to read more carefully before slinging insults.


133 posted on 10/27/2008 8:11:39 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Thank you for the ping.

The Messiah graced Pittsburgh today with an appearance at Mellon Arena (locally known as the Igloo--the NHL Pittsburgh Penguins play there). The Igloo holds 17k plus SRO. From another thread here...and from one of my son's friends (the kid got to miss school for this 'historic visit') there were empty seats. The Pittsburgh Tribune Review puts the crowd at 15k (mostly college students; and (no surprise here) alot of elderly Blacks (the Mellon Arena is located in the lower Hill District--a predominantly black neighborhood.) In the 'report' to my son about his day off school (actually he was calling about homework) I found that there were really quick moving lines "NOT AS BAD AS WAITING FOR THE GATES TO OPEN FOR THE PENGUINS." I report this as anecdotal...and there was no profound impact on the evening rush hour and no apparent parking issues. So alot of these 'supporters' were bussed in or took public transportation. Apparently, this was a non-event event.

Now as to Michael Barrone. Well I can't argue with his knowledge, experience, etc. But I 'knew' that Hillary was going to win PA...and the polls, naysayers said it would be close...0bama was going to pull it out. Yet everyone I knew was so pro-Clinton. And Clinton won by nearly 10 points. Remember, it was a 'stunning' defeat. Now it is the same vibe w/McCain. His signs are everywhere. People in my neighborhood who have never posted a sign before have his signs. Priests have been using their Homilies to re-enforce the Church's position on the sanctity of life (no candidates mentioned...just a prolife theme.) I can't argue numbers...but there is just a ground swell that is noticible.

134 posted on 10/27/2008 8:12:49 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ((Rapping) I say 0bama...you say Ayers. 0bama! Ayers! 0bama! Ayers!)
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To: impeachedrapist

He has to do it.The support from the Americans of Cuban heritage carries alot and I mean alot of weight.Fine conservative people.


135 posted on 10/27/2008 8:15:10 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Edit35
My good friend is running for Penna. State Assembly and has access to the latest polling, and as of about two weeks ago, Obama was up by three points 47-44% in this Bucks County, Pa. district which has a Democrat registration edge.

It would be really nice to see Sarah in Montco before the election. They've been in Bucks and Delco, but as far as I know, not Montco yet.
136 posted on 10/27/2008 8:16:41 PM PDT by Antoninus (If you're bashing McCain/Palin at this point, you're helping Obama.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

” My mom lives in Maryland. In the last governor election, the state threw out a popular Republican governor and elected a Baltimore City democrat.”

It sounds like the voters are experiencing buyers’ remorse. This could make Bob Erlich a U.S. Senator-elect in 2010.


137 posted on 10/27/2008 8:18:12 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
[...] getting crushed in the city and its suburbs, due largely to the mortgage crisis.

Calling Republicans in the Phialdelphia suburbs for the 2004 election revealed intense loathing of President Bush. The situation we see now is not unexpected, and pre-dates the mortgage crisis, although a better campaign by Sen. McCain could have overcome the problems.

138 posted on 10/27/2008 8:18:37 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: penowa

Quote: “He says that Philly AND the surrounding counties, which used to be Republican, account for 40% of the vote. Those counties around Philly are going to vote Democrat and against their own best interests because they are angry and taking it out on the Republicans because their house values and their 401K’s have lost a lot of $.”

Amazing isn’t it, the voters are saying, “we are as mad as hell and were going to shoot ourselves in the heads rather than take take it anymore.”


139 posted on 10/27/2008 8:20:15 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: taildragger; Salvation; narses; NYer; Coleus; Pyro7480

Wow, where did you get that map of the American Catholic population (posting #110)?


140 posted on 10/27/2008 8:24:22 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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