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Rush talked about this today. They will do away with the 401k plan. Your money goes into social security, you die your family does not get it all back, only 50%, as the death tax cuts it by half, it is administered by the SS system, you get no tax benefit, THUS you go into a higher tax bracket EVEN THOUGH you put money into this account. So, the US GOVERNMENT basically owns your retirement account, you die, your family does not get it all back.
1 posted on 10/24/2008 2:04:10 PM PDT by RetiredArmy
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SS = Slaves of the State


2 posted on 10/24/2008 2:06:43 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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No we CAN’T PRIVATIZE A PORTION OF SOCIAL SECURITY TO SAVE IT BE WE SURE CAN RAID PRIVATIZED 401K’S TO SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY!!!
THIS JUST REINFORCES THE CASE FOR PRIVATIZATION!!


3 posted on 10/24/2008 2:08:00 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("Why DON'Y you just let PEOOPLEP make up their own MINES who listen?“ (-Candor7)
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Scary


4 posted on 10/24/2008 2:08:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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ANd so it begins.The pathway to Socialism.


6 posted on 10/24/2008 2:08:52 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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This alone will cause the Demos to lose Congress in 2010 if implemented. Are they really this stupid? (Rhetorical)


7 posted on 10/24/2008 2:09:19 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Feeling bitter and clingy since 1963.)
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I posted this the other day. The democrats are looking for a down 3000.

They want to win at all costs. The reason why Wall Street is crashing and burning are political with the democrats creating a panic on Wall Street and worldwide.

This is socialism at it’s best.


8 posted on 10/24/2008 2:09:27 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama stands for The New United Socialist State or "TNUSSA")
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Ghilarducci is a fiscal idiot. She's failed to account for the fact that 401(k) accounts are subsequently taxed at INCOME TAX rates and not at the far lower CAPITAL GAINS TAX rates.

Otherwise, this old broad is advocating something little different from "W"'s Social Security privatization deal with a hidden increase in Social Security taxes.

Folks will continue to direct their investment dollars to the stock market and will pay no taxes on their investments at all until they make "withdrawals", and then pay only at the capital gains rate.

See how easy it was for that woman to TRICK Democrats?

9 posted on 10/24/2008 2:09:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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This will be the end. Why bother working, when the Democrats are going to take all your money?


10 posted on 10/24/2008 2:10:00 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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Assholes. Pardon my Norwegian.


11 posted on 10/24/2008 2:10:55 PM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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I will opt for early withdraw if they pull this crap!


12 posted on 10/24/2008 2:11:11 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("Why DON'Y you just let PEOOPLEP make up their own MINES who listen?“ (-Candor7)
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I want to spend our nation’s dollar for retirement security better. Everybody would now be covered

Remember now, only racists would criticize this plan and call it socialist.

13 posted on 10/24/2008 2:12:29 PM PDT by JimSEA (just another liberal-bashing fearmonger)
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I have been talking to everyone I can today about this. If the dem’s are allowed to get away with this and the RNC and Republicans don’t get in front of the microphones and spread this, it will be disasterous! Hacks me off!


14 posted on 10/24/2008 2:13:02 PM PDT by southernindymom
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Privatizing Social Security can’t be discussed, but this is okay?


15 posted on 10/24/2008 2:13:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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I can't believe that they were so dumb as to suggest this before the election, unless they wanted to tank the market deliberately to harm McCain.
16 posted on 10/24/2008 2:13:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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Thanks very much for posting.

UNFRIKKENBELIEVABLE! Socialist security is the greatest fraud ever forced on “free people”. These SOCIALIST SCUMBAGS are finding new ways to plunder our time of life and the meager savings we have accumulated through our hard work.


17 posted on 10/24/2008 2:13:55 PM PDT by PGalt
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Un-F@#$%^G-Believeable!

The BASTARDS who managed to engineer the financial meltdown are now going to FORCE US to use their solution, and steal even MORE money from us...

Mark


18 posted on 10/24/2008 2:14:24 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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This is only a glimpse of what a rat Congress will do if The Zero wins. It will be challenged of course in the courts, where this theft will be found “Constitutional.”


19 posted on 10/24/2008 2:14:36 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Acorn & CRA - Reparations by other means.)
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As Hillary said months ago, It's for the greater good.
20 posted on 10/24/2008 2:15:46 PM PDT by Rapscallion (I want to hear the sound of tumbrels....and the thud of the guillotine.)
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Here is just ONE example of how a veto proof Congress and a DemPres can dismantle the nation. They will discover soooo many more.


22 posted on 10/24/2008 2:18:19 PM PDT by BAW (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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How about this one? You give all your IRA money to the Social Security System and they guarantee that you get back twice as much in Social Security payments unless you die first.


23 posted on 10/24/2008 2:21:28 PM PDT by Rapscallion (I want to hear the sound of tumbrels....and the thud of the guillotine.)
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