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"Politically Motivated" Mutilation - Real or Hoax? (Will Make You Too Angry To Barf Alert)
TMZ ^ | Oct 23rd 2008 | TMZ Staff

Posted on 10/23/2008 4:38:01 PM PDT by Entrepreneur

"Politically Motivated" Mutilation - Real or Hoax?

Pittsburgh law enforcement sources tell TMZ they have serious questions about the authenticity of the alleged victim who says she had her face cut by a politically-motivated attacker.

We're told there are several things about the alleged attack that don't add up. A Pittsburgh PD official says they are conducting a "thorough investigation" and have not determined if the alleged attack is real or a hoax. But we're told there is definitely a level of skepticism.

As we reported, the alleged victim claims she went to an ATM and when she turned around, a large dark-skinned man took the money she withdrew. She says when he noticed she had a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car, he became enraged, knocked her down and cut a "B" in her face.

We're told the woman refused medical assistance at the scene and said she would go to the hospital the next day.

The investigation continues.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichrist; ashleytodd; assault; brownshirts; dncbrownshirts; hatecrimehoax; obama; pittsburgh; thugocracy
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To: dogbyte12

What if she is a DEM and lied to become a McCain volunteer? Then if she purposely had this done - it would look bad for McCain.


61 posted on 10/23/2008 4:55:41 PM PDT by Kay
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To: elc

Just my two cents.


62 posted on 10/23/2008 4:56:00 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: snarkytart
Sorry, but it most likely is a hoax. That “black eye” looks like makeup. If her eye was punched there would be reddish coloring the next day as well as black & blue bruising. Also, her eye would be swollen.

Gee and the police who investigate would not be able to tell the difference ... /sarc

63 posted on 10/23/2008 4:56:45 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Exactly PRS.

I know I am new here, but seriously why is everyone acting as judge and jury on this young woman? When a man is overpowering you and has a deadly weapon in his hand, do you really know and I mean REALLY KNOW what you would do?


64 posted on 10/23/2008 4:56:47 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: Entrepreneur

I vote hoaz. “B” is a mirror image.


65 posted on 10/23/2008 4:57:25 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Entrepreneur
If this is indeed a hoax, it means that in the last ten years, the Right trails the Left by about several hundred incidents.

The difference is, the media never rushes to question phony hate crimes against leftists and minorities. They never, ever raise the question unless and until the person admits the hoax.

66 posted on 10/23/2008 4:57:40 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("[Obama acts] as if the very idea of permanent truth is passe, a form of bad taste"-Shelby Steele)
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To: nutmeg

Ping. Not sure what to believe.


67 posted on 10/23/2008 4:58:21 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: aculeus
“B” is a mirror image.

Put a woman a foot or more shorter than you in a headlock, then get back to me.

68 posted on 10/23/2008 4:59:00 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Entrepreneur

John Ankerberg’s 5 CLips to watch before the coming election:
http://www.johnankerberg.org/TV/ankjasrm-5clips.html

Perry Stone’s “THE ELITIST ARE TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH”
http://www.voe.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=106

And just so’s you feel better:

Mainstream Media thinks You’re Stupid...
http://blip.tv/file/1390319
God bless Bob.


69 posted on 10/23/2008 4:59:30 PM PDT by combat_boots (From the Bush Derangement Syndrome(TM) to the 0bama Worship Cult in which NOTHING matters. USSKKKA)
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To: lovesdogs

YOu never know. A man entered my house, a scruffy weird guy, walked in the front door and headed to me. I always thought I was a fighter but my knees went weak and I sunk to the floor frozen like a piece of jelly. Thank God my huge standard poodle came bounding down lthe stairs, jumped over me and chased that sucker off the property.

I never knew I would freeze like that but I did and it was involuntary and reflexive.


70 posted on 10/23/2008 4:59:30 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: buccaneer81

Good point

Another factor: flip the photo and zoom it... you write a “B”; the increased skin tearing and darker abrasion indicates to me that it was not faked (had she done it, the more forceful tearing would be at the bottom)

Also, someone who thinks of something like this to drum up support would clearly put ALOT of thought into it; would they screw up the most important aspect?

I think it’s 80/20% real to fake


71 posted on 10/23/2008 4:59:42 PM PDT by swordfishtrombone
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To: aculeus
I vote hoaz. “B” is a mirror image.

Actually, I vote hoax.

Besides "O" is easier to carve than "B" therefor the perp is stupid.

Hoaxers are stupid.

72 posted on 10/23/2008 4:59:48 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: frogjerk

Yes, 64 point Helvetica, please.

What happened to getting the whole story before jumping to conclusions?


73 posted on 10/23/2008 4:59:50 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (You MUST see this website: http://www.neverfindout.org/)
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To: aculeus

Hello. I sincerely doubt that she was standing up when her attacker wrote on her face. Therefore, it would be most likely that the attacker would be kneeling at her head - in that case it is not backwards.


74 posted on 10/23/2008 5:00:04 PM PDT by Kay
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To: denydenydeny
If this is indeed a hoax, it means that in the last ten years, the Right trails the Left by about several hundred incidents. The difference is, the media never rushes to question phony hate crimes against leftists and minorities

And another difference is that some of us (the stupid party), help the left attack our own.

75 posted on 10/23/2008 5:00:21 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: snarkytart

Being skeptical is good. But as for the black eyes being makeup....where did the photo come from? Is it a mug shot, news photo? Don’t you think THEY would have noticed it was makeup? I’ve had black eyes that didn’t swell from being hit on the back of my head.


76 posted on 10/23/2008 5:00:34 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: cdga5for4

IF the police saw her I think they coukd wipe off makeup as opposed to a real bruise.


77 posted on 10/23/2008 5:00:55 PM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: swordfishtrombone

Also, if she’s so politically minded, wouldn’t she just use O. The O is much more convincing than a B and also easier to do if you were doing it to yourself.


78 posted on 10/23/2008 5:01:09 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: snarkytart

well then Al Sharpton should be named chief investigator to get to the bottom of this.....

I have to say I’m filled with doubts about it, but then I’m also wondering what could possess anyone to do a [hoax??] like this if it’s not legit.

The black eye doesn’t look like there’s any real swelling, not that I’ve seen any black eyes in my entire life, but when I’ve seen photos they’ve always had a lot more obvious swelling.

Hard to believe anyone could carve their own face, though..... as another poster commented, even in suicide women are (reported to be) very protective of their faces, not that I would know anything about that subject.....

This all seems so extremely bizarre either way, whether real or hoax, but I can’t say I find it too easy to believe this is real. Hope for the sake of the young woman it’s real b/c if it is a hoax it’s going to come out as the police will stay on it due to the amount of publicity it’s getting.


79 posted on 10/23/2008 5:01:18 PM PDT by Enchante (The real "bitter clingers" are on the LEFT -- ranting Obamabots clinging to delusions!!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
What happened to getting the whole story before jumping to conclusions?

I have to believe every story that comes out or I'm "jumping" to conclusions? Come on now. It sounds and looks fishy to me. Nothing definitive.

80 posted on 10/23/2008 5:01:33 PM PDT by frogjerk (Palin's record is on the record, while whole years of Obama's life are engulfed in fog - T. Sowell)
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